Netters:

Ah yes it always seems to be the little unexpected things that bite you in the
hind parts.

Don

Barry Kruyssen wrote:

> I agree with Bobby in that the idle speed may contribute to ground loops.
>
> My Jabiru is supposed to idle at 1000 rpm which caused an excessively long
> roll out after touch down. I backed the idle down to 800 rpm and reduced my
> ground roll by about 200 feet.  A soft rubber stop holds it at 1000 rpm and
> if I pull back hard on the throttle it comes back to 800 rpm.
>
> On May 1st 2006 I took my brother in law for ride. After an hour or so, 5
> miles out he says that he needs to get on the ground ASAP as he is feeling
> woozy. Then on short finals he starts loosing his breakfast into my hat (I
> gave him my hat when turning finals). On roll out I ground looped at about
> 20 kph. My concentration was else where and I may not have pulled the
> throttle back the extra 200 rpm which may have contributed to my ground
> looping.  Bent the tail wheel assembly and cracked one wheel faring. Back in
> the air last weekend.
>
> I may now look at my idle setup as I don't want to do that again. Maybe the
> rubber block idea was not such a good idea.
>
> Just sharing my thoughts.
> Regards
> Barry Kruyssen
> Cairns, Australia
> k...@bigpond.com
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of bo...@hatconversions.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:36 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> VW 2180 Idle
>
> Guys,
>      Two different guys brought Kitfoxes to me in Fla because they said they
> were really prone to ground loop. The one guy had tore up a wing tip. I
> checked all the usual suspects, wheel alignment, etc, and when I couldn't
> find a problem, I finally flew both of them. They both had Rotax 912's in
> them that wouldn't idle slow. When you landed you were trying to overcome
> the additional power with the brakes, and had trouble keeping the tail down
> with the brakes and the additional airflow under the tail....Ideal set up to
> either get it up on its nose or have a groundloop.
>      In my opinion, I would idle them as low as it can go before take off.
> On final with the prop windmilling, it's not going to quit anyway.
> Bobby
>
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