On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <fatbuttla...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sure, but downloading a browser on Linux is so much more different >> than it is on Windows / OS X. >> My primary aim with opening this discussion was not to decide which >> browser we should ship on the ISO, but having a user friendly way in >> which a first time user can install an alternative browser. > > > This is simply not true. Between the Kubuntu Software Installer for Firefox > and the pre-packaged .DEB files that Google provides for Chrome, installing > a browser in Linux has never been easier.
I'll agree with the fact about Google Chrome :) > > If you're worried about someone downloading the wrong version, that could be > said for any installer on any OS. > > Downloading may be "different", however I would argue that for ease of use, > you should ask the Mozilla project to modify their home page to launch the > apt:// url when the big green Download button us pressed. This would likely > need coordination with some Ubuntu cross-reference of OS version to apt url > that the community could maintain. Perhaps lower under the green button > would be an option to install manually. Unfortunately, since the version > through apt would be slightly dated, this would also warrant a disclaimer > above the download button that the version may be out of date. > Actually, with the new policies Firefox is regularly updated on all supported releases of Ubuntu. So a url like apt://firefox will always install the latest release. I actually proposed having having apt:// links on kubuntu.org to popular software like vlc/firefox/chromium etc on IRC. It was shot down due to security concerns. > If you want ease of use, make this page (en version linked) -- the page the > rest of the world uses to install Firefox -- actually install Firefox, not > download a tarball that's confusing to the users you are trying to > represent. > That page is out of our control. It's something that Mozilla would have to change on their end. > -Tres > > -Tres > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Volkan Gezer <volkange...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> En İyi Dileklerimle, >> Volkan GEZER >> volkange...@gmail.com >> >> >> 2013/2/1 Nowardev-Team <nowar...@gmail.com>: >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/2/1 Rick Timmis <rick.tim...@abazander.com> >> >> >> >> My take is as follows >> >> >> >> I believe we should look to keep things simple and unified. Kubuntu has >> >> set out its stall as a default KDE experience, it should stick with >> >> that. >> >> >> >> encouraging more users to "Try Out" Rekonq, grows the users and testing >> >> community, and provides the potential for greater feedback, and >> >> increased >> >> development for the upstream project. This is true for the whole KDE >> >> package set. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > if you go here http://www.kubuntu.org/ you will read >> > >> > Kubuntu, making your PC friendly >> > >> > >> > and if you know what is ubuntu you should understand that ubuntu is NOT >> > a >> > distro for testing software >> > it's linux made simple for end-user. you wanna support rekonq well make >> > an >> > icon that will install rekonq instead here we got the opposite. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> I do not like the idea, of adding questions to the installer, in fact I >> >> feel that it would be better to remove questions, ask less, assume >> >> more. >> >> Whilst our technically savvy users may not appreciate this, think about >> >> the >> >> broader audience. >> >> >> >> We're are trying to persuade Sally Smith, who bought her Laptop from a >> >> local retail store, all fully loaded with all sorts of software. All >> >> she >> >> had to do was switch it on and give it a user name and set her >> >> password. >> >> >> >> That's what we're competing with, so we must try to recreate that user >> >> experience in our own way. >> >> >> >> However, you make an excellent point about users not knowing about >> >> Software Centre, but perhaps this could be better served with some >> >> explanatory information that is presented as the installer takes care >> >> of >> >> business >> >> >> >> ATB >> >> >> >> Rick Timmis >> > >> > >> > if you do a good installer the first things will be >> > >> > * the partition stuff >> > *software to install >> > >> >> I am also aggree with this. >> Before there was a saying about choosing between minimal installation >> or custom installation. When it is custom, can users pick their >> favourite softwares before installation? For example in openSUSE they >> allow everything to be chosen before installation (maybe with yast , >> but I dont know). So basics program installations can be selected. If >> user selects these programs, then these may be added to their >> Favourite tab in Kickoff. >> >> > *keyboard language and user password stuff >> > >> > then the computer can do all the installation by itself wihout user >> > actions >> > >> > so adding a question is good , users are not stupid i think a more >> > question >> > will not kill them expecially if they want install linux that is not a >> > ultra >> > easy task. >> >> > -- >> > kubuntu-devel mailing list >> > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> > >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > > > > -- > - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
