Digital extensions don't do well over long distances. Try setting up a 
analog extension and program your necessary functions into it.

Lee Brannen, MBA, President
Brannen Electrical, Inc.
310 210 9669 (cell)
310-470-3268 (fax)

www.brannenelectrical.com



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> Subject: Re: KX-T: Proprietary Phone Wiring Problem
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>>I have wanted to post the following problem for a while but thought it was 
>>more of a wiring problem as opposed to a phone problem.  With the recent 
>>posts I've seen, it's clear there are some members with expertise in 
>>wiring and so here goes.
>>
>>We have a KX-TD1232 installed with 32 extensions and 7 COs.  The 
>>extensions are KX-T7433 and 7435 and are spread across 3 buildings with 
>>the TD1232 in the central building.  The extensions all use a single pair 
>>on the digital connection.
>>
>>The extensions in one building do not work properly on some functions like 
>>speakerphone and they don't work at all when we are on battery backup.  I 
>>traced the problem down to a voltage drop because the phones are so far 
>>away.  They are 800' from the TD1232.  The voltage at the extension is 
>>around 5 volts and so it is amazing they work at all.  Anyway, the cable 
>>that was run when the system was installed is 50 pair 24 gauge underground 
>>in a conduit.  The Panasonic manual says that we should have 22 gauge for 
>>that distance. In an attempt to reduce the voltage drop, we tried doubling 
>>up two pair of the 24 gauge wire (we have spares).  What we found is that 
>>no matter how we double the pairs, the phones won't work at all.  The 
>>voltage is much closer to 12 volts but there is just a constant ticking 
>>sound in the handset and the phone won't work.  We tried use one pair on 
>>one side and another pair on the other side and that didn't work.  We 
>>tried using one wire from each pair doubled and that didn't work.  Using 2 
>>pairs does certainly reduce the voltage drop but the extension doesn't 
>>work at all. Any ideas of why this won't work? Thanks for any advice you 
>>can give.  Tom.
>>
>>
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> Turn off the backlight.
>
> Paralleling pairs increases capacitance that will kill the 74xx.  Cat5e
> will have lower cap and helps.
>
> Make sure the cable starts at the ksu and ends at the set.  one port
> connected to two cables to two jacks, unterminated cable will cause swr
> and mess up the connected set.  (done to allow a pits at one place and a
> slt at another place on the same port)
>
> you can usually get away with a 70xx set since the voice is on the first
> pair, and the digital signal doesn't have the high speed digitized
> voice.  (if only have prob at a few distant sets)
>
> There is also the add a small series supply at the set end.  the old
> loopextender  ;-)  idea I still don't like.
>
> good luck
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> -larry / dallas
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