Op 25-8-2013 1:23, Regina Henschel schreef:
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On Aug 24, 2013 10:14 PM, "Andrea Pescetti" <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
[..]
You cannot speak about name= so generally, there is a big difference
between UI strings and help strings.
I was assuming that we were talking about the Help.
For help its a different matter, there name= is used to generate an
index
(happened last time in 2009, so actually quite outdated, have a
look at
the
tree files in svn)
This rings a bell... what is the index used for? Is it a "Search" index
or a "Table of Contents" index? I'm thinking of this, still unclear,
issue:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122871
I think that is a different problem.
The scripts I know of (helpcontent2/util) generates tree files for
some but
not all product parts. The tree files are sent to translation (eg.
helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/makefile.mk) and then used to make a
table
of content.
Are you sure the scripts are intended to be still used. Or were they
only used in the beginning when the content was transformed from the
old help system to helpcontent2?
However I see no evidence (tree files are in svn) that these scripts was
used for 3.4.1 or 4.0, so I assume fhat TOC is outdated (at least it
is on
my pc).
I think it is actual. I have written the new file for the sidebar
window (shared/text/shared/guide/sidebar_window.xhp). You find it in
the TOC unter Common Help Topics > Working with the User Interface >
Sidebar Window. And in the German version of AOO4.0 it is there too,
now with the translated headings Modulunabhängige Hilfethemen >
Arbeiten mit der Benutzeroberfläche > Symbolleisten Fenster.
For to get my new file shown in the TOC I have added a line in
helpcontent2/source/auxiliary/shared.tree
I think, it is up to the author, whether the file is shown in the TOC
or not.
Since it seems I am a minority in here, I will refrain from promoting
what
correspond to the sources we actually use.
We just need knowledge, nothing more. So in the UI you say that Danish
did not translate the "name" attributes and everything still works. And
indeed, since new volunteers are working on the UI first (which I was
forgetting), this is enough.
Regina and me clearly had the Help in mind. But now I'm still curious:
what happens if one does not translate the "name" attribute in the help?
Besides the obvious observation that most languages appear to
translate it
and to have done so for ages, what exactly would break here?
talking only about help, nothing will change unless somebody invokes the
scripts to make a new TOC. Standard TOC are in english and I can the
tree
file is translated to several lang. If the scripts are invoked, and both
namre= and tree is translated correct a new TOC will be available.
I work on replacing this very manual part.
It is not clear to me, what you will do. There exists more files than
should be shown in the "Contents" page of the help. The intension had
been, to change the help towards guides and hide those parts from
directly viewing, which are only internal helpers.
Therefore for translators and help review the file allfiles.tree had
been generated, to give really all files. And that one is indeed not
up to date, but there had been a script, see
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=69273 for it. I don't
know, whether it still exists.
Kind regards
Regina
There is still some ancient info about this on our dinosaur-pages
http://www.openoffice.org/nl/coordinatingpage.html and
http://www.openoffice.org/nl/t9n_nl2_en.html
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DiGro
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