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From: Cindy Sheehan 
March 5th, 2013

        
        




 


In Loving Memory: Hugo Chavez Frias 1954-2013


  


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At Miraflores in Caracas: January 2006

 

        
        

Hugo Chavez Frias, Presente!

Cindy Sheehan

 

A wonderful human being has passed.


What do I do when I am angry, happy, or sad? I write.


Back in 2004, shortly after my son, Casey, was killed in Iraq, a grief 
counselor advised me to write a letter to my son in a journal every night. I 
filled up three journals in the terrible months after his death. I often wrote 
at his grave and those journals did help me deal with the unspeakable loss.


Today, I write from a great well of sadness, but not just for me, for the 
world. My dear friend in peace and justice, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, 
just lost his fierce and valiant battle with cancer.


Many people know about Hugo Chavez, the president, and constant thorn in the 
side to El Imperio the meddlesome and harmful Empire to the north. But I want 
to eulogize Chavez the man I knew.


He was my dear friend and comrade in a way where we were united in the struggle 
for peace and economic justice and equality. It’s not like I could text him, or 
we would chat about current events, but whenever I had the privilege to be with 
him, warmth radiated from his heart and I was able to connect with him in very 
real and human ways. Compared to the palpable realness of Chavez, most of the 
US politicians I have met with are walking and talking ice sculptures.


The first time I met him in Caracas was in early 2006 at the World Social 
Forum. I had been invited to sit on the stage while he gave a speech to those 
gathered there from around the world. He introduced me as, “Señora Esperanza,” 
“Mrs. Hope,” in contrast to his nickname for George Bush: “Señor Peligro,” “Mr. 
Danger.” However, our brother, Hugo Chavez, was the one who gave us much hope.


I have met and interviewed so many people in Venezuela whose lives were 
immeasurably improved by the vision and dedication of Hugo Chavez. How can one 
put a price on going from being illiterate to being able to read? A 65-year-old 
woman told me her life was transformed by the adult literacy program. It really 
made me appreciate the fact that I have always known how to read (it seems). 
What would I have done without my best friends, my books? Wow. I guess 
Capitalism would tally the cost of educating one student and, of course 
education here in the US is now just another commodity, but the look of wonder 
in my Sister’s eyes was priceless!


Another woman showed me her perfect teeth in a huge grin. She told me that her 
teeth used to be so bad, that she would never smile before, but now, due to her 
new set of false teeth provided by the national dental program, she walks 
around grinning like a lunatic all day, which made me laugh with joy! Again, 
Capitalism would say: One set of false teeth equals X amount of dollars. I say, 
being able to smile after years of embarrassing humiliation is worth more than 
any amount of gold.


Those are just two stories out of millions and my heart breaks with sorrow for 
the People of the Bolivarian Revolution that must be even more devastated than 
I, today.


I witnessed Chavez the proud “abuelo” (grandpa) once on a long flight from 
Caracas to Montevideo that I took with them. We chatted about out “nietos” 
(grandchildren) and felt a mutual connection there. I hugged my grandbabies a 
little harder today when I found out that Chavez died, because I know the 
wonderful connection that he had with his. My heart breaks for his children and 
his family, and his brother, Adan, who seemed to be constantly at his side. 

It’s just a very hard day.


I was with Chavez in Montevideo, Uruguay, for the presidential inauguration of 
Felipé Mujica. I was amazed that Chavez could just plunge into the crowds and 
interact with the people without a phalanx of bodyguards, anti-aircraft 
missiles and assault weapons. His security detail was prepared, but not 
paranoid like up here in the Empire. Someone who is universally loved by the 
99% need have no fear. Chavez had no fear.


Chavez’s courageous battle against the Empire was more successful than his 
battle against cancer. Chavez was able to inspire more leftist leaders in Latin 
America and my friends in Cuba will always be grateful for the friendship 
between Venezuela and Cuba. The struggle against neo-liberalism and the Empire 
has been far advanced under Chavez’s inspirational leadership.


This is a sad day and I am angry that the so-called leaders of my own country 
made Chavez’s life a virtual hell, but he survived one coup attempt and the 
many other attempts through the media and financing of his opposition to 
undermine the revolution.


When in the hell is this country going to mind it’s own goddamn business and 
realize that not every drop of oil belongs to our oil companies and not every 
democratically elected leader must pledge undying obsequiousness to the Evil 
Empire?


I am immensely proud of Chavez and I am immensely proud of the people of 
Venezuela who have worked with him to improve their lives and because they 
really understand the concept of “national sovereignty.”


I know the upper echelons of The Empire think they have won a victory today (if 
it didn’t give Chavez his cancer in the first place—don’t even start and say I 
am a “conspiracy theorist” everyone knows that the Empire is fully capable of 
it, they couldn’t kill him, or depose him, outright) and all the oil will now 
flow back into the hands of our big oil companies, but The Empire 
underestimates the people of Venezuela and their dedication to the Bolivarian 
Revolution and love for their leader, Hugo Chavez.


As we sorrowfully say, “vaya con la paz” to our Brother, Hugo Chavez, let’s 
also say, “long live the revolution.”


Chavez will never die if we honor his vision and continue our struggle against 
The Empire. US Presidents come and go with destructive, yet boring and 
predictable regularity and are numbered for History's convenience when they 
should all have had black and white striped clothing and be behind bars. 
However, it is my belief that Hugo Chavez Frias will go down in World History 
as one of the most significant figures of the early 21st Century and his 
passing is a tragic and profound loss to us all, as his life was an inspiration.


A-dios, Señor Esperanza. 


Thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul. Your light is far too bright to 
be extinguished by something as cruel as death and your light shines in all of 
us whose hearts burn with revolution and love for all the people. 


My life and our world are far better today because of your life and the 
struggle continues until victory!  

Cindy Sheehan 

 

  


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Transcribed by Regina Freitag

Original Translation by Eva Golinger

Interviewer: Cindy Sheehan

 

Cindy Sheehan:

Presidente Chavez, thank you for being on the show, thank you for this 
interview & thank you for allowing me to bring the truth about Venezuela and 
about you and about your revolution to the people of the United States. Before 
the revolution, Venezuela was a nation that was ruled and used up by the 
oligarchy, the elite. How did your revolution begin, how did it manage to 
remain relatively peaceful?

 

Hugo Chavez: 

Thank you Cindy, for this interview, for your efforts, that are so honorable 
and notable, to try to find out our truth and to contribute to its diffusion. 
And we wish you much luck in your struggles, which are ours as well, against 
war, for peace, for freedom and equality and against imperialism. We accompany 
you in your struggles. You and the people of the United States. We love them 
the same. The bourgeoisie of Venezuela has always dominated the country, for 
more than a hundred years. And they dominated it with force, using violence, 
persecution, assassination and disappearances. Unfortunately, the Venezuelan 
history is a history full of a lot of violence, violence from the strong 
against the weak. In the 20th century, Venezuela, which was dominated by the 
oligarchy and the bourgeois state, the rich, the wealthy, produced a reversed 
type of miracle, we could say. Venezuela was the first exporter of oil from the 
beginning of the 1920s until the 1970s. One of the largest producers of 
petroleum in the world throughout all the 20th century. And when the 20th 
century ended, with the domination of the bourgeoisie, despite all the wealth, 
Venezuela had more than 70% poverty and 40% extreme poverty, misery, misery, 
misery. So that generated an explosion, a violent one. All explosions are 
violent. An explosion of the poor, to liberate themselves. We were remembering 
just 2 days ago in Caracas. You were there with us, with our people. 21 years 
ago, the people woke, arose in a big explosion. And as military we were used by 
the bourgeoisie to massacre the people, children, women, and older people. And 
then that awoke something in the young military folks, a consciousness of pain 
and then we joined with the people. We had two rebellions, military rebellions, 
popular (inaudible ). A revolution isn’t exactly peaceful. As you said it was 
relatively peaceful.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Yes, relatively, yeah

 

Hugo Chavez: Just like all true revolutions.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

But doesn’t the violence of revolutions sometimes come from the 
counter-revolution? 

And the Bolivarian revolution that has transferred power and wealth to the 
people is an inspiration and has remained relatively peaceful.

 

Hugo Chavez: 

Yes, we got the power in a peaceful way.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Right.

 

Hugo Chavez: 

Exactly, and we have been able to maintain it relatively peaceful. We’ve never 
used violence. 

They’ve used it against us. The counter-revolution. So the central strategy of 
our peaceful and socialist revolution is to transfer the power to the people. 

I’m sure you have been able to see some of it with your own eyes, in the 
neighborhoods of Caracas.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Yes I have.

 

Hugo Chavez: 

We have made efforts were to help the people to be sovereign. When we talk 
about power, what are we talking about, Cindy? The first power that we all have 
is knowledge. So we’ve made efforts first in education, against illiteracy, for 
the development of thinking, studying, analysis. In a way, that has never 
happened before. Today, Venezuela is a giant school, it’s all a school. From 
children of one year old until old age, all of us are studying and learning. 
And then political power, the capacity to make decisions, the community 
councils, communes, the people’s power, the popular assemblies.

And then there is the economic power. Transferring economic power to the 
people, the wealth of the people distributed throughout the nation. I believe 
that is the principal force that precisely guarantees that the Bolivarian 
revolution continues to be peaceful.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

Wonderful. In a speech the other day, you said that the United States demonizes 
you, demonizes Venezuela and the revolution. 

I of course have seen it with my own eyes and have been a defender of you and 
Venezuela and the revolution. 

Why do you think the Empire makes such a concerted effort to demonize you?

 

Hugo Chavez: 

I think for different reasons. But I came to the conclusion there is one 
particular strong reason, a big reason. They are afraid, the Empire is afraid. 
The Empire is afraid that the people of the United States might find out about 
the truth, they are afraid that something like that could erupt on their own 
territory. A Bolivarian movement. Or a Lincoln movement. A movement of 
citizens, conscious citizens with the goal to transform the system. Imperial 
fear killed Martin Luther King. The only way to stop him was to kill him and 
repressing the people of the United States. So, why do they demonize us? They 
know - those who direct the Empire – they know the truth. But they fear the 
truth. They fear the contagious effect. They fear a revolution in the United 
States. They fear an awakening of the people in the United States. And so 
that’s why they do everything they can. And they achieve it, relatively, that a 
lot of sectors in the United States see us as devils. No one wants to copy the 
devil.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Right.

 

Hugo Chavez: 

Unless they are devils too. And the people aren’t devils. The people are the 
voice of God.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

Well, one of the biggest names they call you in the United States is dictator. 
Can you explain to my listeners and the people, for the benefit of this 
documentary why you are not a dictator?

 

Hugo Chavez: 

In the first place, personally, I am against dictatorships. I’m an 
anti-dictator. We are here in Uruguay, in Montevideo. You know how many 
dictatorships were in this country. The Guerilla army. 

I’m an anti-Guerilla. In addition to that, from a political point of view, I’ve 
been elected one, two, three, four times, by popular vote. In Venezuela, we 
have elections all the time. Every year, we have elections in Venezuela. One 
time, Lula, the president of Brazil… when he was in Europe, someone asked him 
“Why are you friends with that dictator Chavez?” And Lula said a big truth: “In 
Venezuela, there is an excess of democracy. Every year there are elections. And 
if there aren’t any, Chavez invents them. Referendums, popular consultations, 
elections for governors, mayors. Right now, soon we are starting national 
assembly elections, this year. In 2012 there is going to be a presidential 
election again. What dictator is elected so many times? What dictator convenes 
referendums? I’m an anti-dictator. 

I am a revolutionary. A democratic revolutionary.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

Well, I have witnessed this revolution. I’ve witnessed the empowerment of the 
people of Venezuela, which is very inspiring, because the people in the United 
States don’t feel this empowerment. I even rode the Metrocable, and I’m afraid 
of heights. But I went out to San Augustin and then walked down the steps and 
saw how that so-called dictatorship has made the life of the people much better 
here in Venezuela. Also in the commemoration of the Caracazo you announced that 
you will again going to run for president in 2012. You’ve come a long way, but 
there is still a long way to go. 

What do you still think needs to be accomplished as far as infrastructure and 
the needs of the people in Venezuela?

 

Hugo Chavez: 

To tell you in a mathematical way, despite everything we’ve done in education, 
healthcare, infrastructure, housing, employment, social security, etc., 
mathematically, I believe, of everything we’ve done and we have to achieve for 
the people, we have achieved about 10%. It’s been 200 years of abandonment. The 
people have been abandoned. All the wealth of the country was in the hands of 
the elite. We talk about the bicentennial cycle, 2010 to 2030, we have to work 
really hard. In every aspect, infrastructure etc. I hope that you, in a few 
years, won’t just go up in the metrocable in San Augustin, but all of Caracas 
is going to have metrocables, and everywhere, every place, housing, 
reconstruction in poor neighborhoods, the construction of new cities for the 
people and dignified housing, there is still a lot to do, to achieve what Simon 
Bolivar said. Bolivar taught us...

 

(President Evo Morales comes in)

 

Hugo Chavez: 

Oh look! Evo is here. Evo, come and sit down! Bolivar taught us that the best 
government is the one that gives the people the best amount of happiness. 

That’s our goal. The best, the largest amount of happiness. My friend Evo, the 
president of Bolivia, who just got here, he is an indigenous leader! Brother 
how are you?

 

Evo Morales: Good, good.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Presidente Morales. Mucho gusto. So nice to meet you.

 

Hugo Chavez (introduces Cindy): 

Cindy Sheehan. She is a fighter for peace, against the war. She is a US 
citizen. 

One of her sons died in Iraq. So she’s interviewing us. And maybe you want to 
answer a question.

 

Evo Morales: (gives Indian blessing)

 

Hugo Chavez: 

To live well. It’s a Mala Indian philosophy. To live well, a good live. To live 
well, spiritually, intellectually, physically, that’s what it’s about.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

Thank you, that’s what it should be about. I have one final question. Thank you 
for your generosity. This has been really wonderful. Maybe Presidente Morales 
could have some input about this too. We see your rise to power in Venezuela as 
kind of a grassroots movement that has been spreading and has helped President 
Morales in Bolivia, and we see people all over South America taking back the 
power. Because the power belongs in the hands of the people. A couple of weeks 
ago in the United States, a man flew his airplane into the tax building in 
Austin, Texas. Did you hear about that?

 

Evo Morales/ Hugo Chavez: Yes.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

There is much frustration with the system. And there is a lot of that 
frustration in the United States. But instead of flying planes into buildings 
we should find each other and organize. In the U.S. of course, we are now a 
system that is also for the elite, ruled by the elite, it’s a “corporatocracy”, 
it’s for the corporate elite. Of course, in my opinion, I believe the United 
States need the same grassroots revolution, power back to the people, that 
you’ve all had here in South America. Can you give us some words of inspiration 
to encourage us, to give us the courage & heart for a true revolutionary change?

 

Hugo Chavez: 

We were the same, dominated, persecuted, and also there was a lot of 
desperation, just like that man who flew the plane into the building. There is 
a lot of that, of lot of those impulses, suicidal tendencies. Now, that’s NOT 
the path. The path is consciousness, a conscious awakening. Evo was persecuted, 
from very young, I met him when he was an Assembly member, and they threw him 
out of Congress, and they persecuted him, they jailed him, a lot of his fellow 
strugglers died. And us too, we had our own experiences. A lot of our brothers 
died as well, a lot of us went to prison. But consciousness. That’s why you’re 
doing the right thing. The path is not to fly a plane into a building. It’s to 
create consciousness. And then the rest will come on its own. I’d like to take 
this moment to say hello to people of the United States. And us here in the 
South, we have a lot of faith. And the people in the North are going to wake 
up. Just like you have woken. Just like many have had an awakening. You can do 
great changes in the United States, and in a peaceful way, I hope. Because, 
what happens in the United States, those changes in the United States depend a 
lot...the future of the world depends on that a lot. (Pres. Chavez addresses 
Pres. Morales) Evo, would you like to say something?

 

Cindy Sheehan: Please!

 

Evo Morales: I just finished a meeting with Eduardo Galliano.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Oh, I know him.

 

Evo Morales: 

He’s so inspirational with the people, about nature. Galliano is also going to 
the inauguration of Pepe Mujica. 

(Pres. Morales and Pres. Chavez talk to each other.) 

And he’s going to bring some strategies, proposals, and we’re going to have a 
meeting with Galliano and the cocoa workers ...

 

Cindy Sheehan: Oh. Very wonderful.

 

Evo Morales: 

To talk about equality and our experiences. The difficult things, how to unite 
us and to raise our consciousness. What you’re talking about. The power resides 
with the people. I was just with Commandante Borhez, Thomas Borhez from 
Nicaragua. We were talking about issues of consciousness in Peru, in Colombia, 
on how to build a big political movement. But the issue is unity. In my 
experience, first the (inaudible), the marginalized, we united first, the 
farmers and the indigenous. And from that it went on. Just like that unity, we 
need to do that with the political parties on the left and then the workers 
unite. Those are the forces that we have, the power that the people have. To 
get there is hard, you have to raise consciousness.

 

Cindy Sheehan: 

My documentary is called “We are all Americans”. It comes from when I was being 
interviewed on Fox News and Sean Hannity told me how could I meet with the 
anti-American dictator Hugo Chavez. And I said: ”But Sean, he is an American”. 
We are all Americans and that’s where the consciousness has to be raised and 
the unity has to come from in realizing that. And so, it’s been my highest 
honor to sit with you, Presidente, thank you for your hospitality and that of 
Venezuela and to finally meet you. I was invited to Bolivia to help to support 
you for your recall, but I was running for Congress against Nazi policy in the 
United States. It was a bad time. I lost. (laughs) I didn’t win.

 

Hugo Chavez: But we will prevail.

 

Cindy Sheehan: We will be victorious. Thank you so much.

 

Hugo Chavez: 

We have to end, but I want to say something to you. Just about 5 days ago, we 
were in Cancun. We were on our way out from the hotel and the press was there, 
and there were some tourists from California. So I went up to them and I said 
hi to a woman and her child and another woman. A lot of affection. It was 
spontaneous. And then I told my friends. I found tourists. 

I found US tourists. Older adults, young women, men, adolescents. I’ve met with 
them in Japan, Moscow, Beijing, in the Caribbean, everywhere in the world, in 
Buenos Aires. 

I’ve never felt one look of hate, but rather affection, so I think that despite 
everything, I believe the people of the United States in the depths of their 
hearts, 

they know how to appreciate where lies are and where the truth is. That’s why 
we have such hope. And here is my heart for those people of the United States. 

They call us anti-US-leaders, anti-American leaders, but we are not. We are 
anti-imperialist. But we love the people of the United States. We love humanity.

 

Cindy Sheehan: Muchas Gracias!

 



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