On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 21:59 +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:46, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 18:52 +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 14:06, Thorsten Scherler
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 16:21 +0100, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> >> The Apache HttpComponents project are willing to sponsor the project.
> >>
> >> Why HC and not, say, Lucene/Nutch?
> >
> > The hc project expressed their interest in droids from the beginning
> > [3]. They planed to provide a http-spider as you can see from [4] but
> > nobody found the time to implement it. This are the reasons why HC.
> >
> > Nutch/lucene did not express any interest, furthermore droids is not
> > about search engine at all. It is a robot framework so lucene/nutch does
> > not fit, I do not want to limit the focus of droids to search engines.
> 
> There are so many projects nowadays at Apache, that it is likely for a
> tool to fit more than one.

Agree.

> 
> >> >> I
> >> >> think they still has to formalize this with an official vote but there
> >> >> is interest [1].
> >>
> >> I see you are the sole committer on this lab and there is little
> >> documentation.
> >
> > I am till now the only one committing to the code that is right,
> > however as you can see from the issue tracker there have been outside
> > contributions. Further in my current work droids is starting to get
> > recognition which will help to develop it.
> 
> Hope, you can convert some contributors to committers :-)

jeje, yeah. :)

> > Regarding the documentation [5] I think that is not that little, like most
> > open source projects documentation always can be enhanced but IMO there is
> > enough to get started.
> >
> >>
> >> Do you think this is sustainable enough to go into
> >> incubation?
> >
> > You may review the archive since we had already this point covered with
> > a former discussion on this list. However if I do not think it is 
> > sustainable
> > I would not plan to move it.
> 
> I'm just being interested and asking since you'd be the first lab to
> go into incubation.

Yeah, somebody needs to get the ball rolling. ;)

> No doubt your decision is well-planned.
> And: You are the PI, so decide about your labs direction.

Cheers and yes I started talk about moving droids to the incubator since
feburary. 

> 
> > In lab I doubt to build a community around the code since not releasing is
> > a show stopper for many company use cases, but yes I think the code and the
> > idea behind it can attract some people.
> 
> Well, you could always release it on your own terms, simply not out of
> the Labs project.
> There are some very sucessfull tools around here at the ASF, which
> were never official Apache release.
> A well-known example is Andy Clark's nekohtml.

Yeah, very well known. 

> 
> I plan to release a milestone of Vysper some day, when it implements
> the two most basic RFCs.

I always wanted to look into Vysper but ATM there is always something
else coming up with higher priority. :(

salu2

>   Bernd
> 
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