On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask for clarification on the "no releases" policy. In
> that, I refer to a thread called "the no releases policy" from March
> 2009. [1] In that thread a distinction is made between a "personal"
> release and an "Apache release".

I think that's the key.  We can only govern an Apache Release (for
which we could be held liable) and so, the "no releases" policy means
no releases from Apache Labs PMC.  It's permissively licensed and
allows you to personally do pretty much whatever you wish though.

> A "personal release" would be declared as something that is not voted
> upon by an Apache PMC. In particular, it would be published without
> the acknowledgement of 3 PMC members. Several people in this thread
> (including William Rowe, who seemed to have had something like the
> last word) have expressed that it is fine to
>
> a) create an SVN tag in a lab's SVN.
> b) publish files like <mylab>-<myversion>-src.tar.gz and/or
> <mylab>-<myversion>-bin.tar.gz, for example on people.apache.org in my
> home directory
> c) publish files like <mylab>-<myversion>.jar on repo1.maven.org

The only controversial element of this would be hosting it on
people.apache.org which could give some unwitting user the impression
that it's "Apache software" by being hosted on an apache domain.  Not
sure how valid this one is though.

> What I must not do is to use the Apache brand. For example, I must not
> name my files apache-<mylab>-<myversion>-bin.tar.gz. Likewise, I must
> not use "Apache MyLab" in the accompanying documentation. And I can
> imagine that I should clearly express, that this is a personal release
> only in the appropriate locations.

yes

> And, of course, I cannot expect protection in the case of IP related
> questions caused by my personal release. (Which is absolutely fine, if
> the code was completely invented by me.)
>
> OTOH, in the same thread, Paul Querna disagreed. What's more, just a
> few days later, he proposed in the thread "[VOTE] Complete Orthrus
> Lab" (also on [1]) his wish to leave the Labs with the inability to
> publish releases as the reason. Noone disagreed and the vote
> acknowledged his wish.

Yeah, I can't really tell what Paul's concerns were.  I think there's
plenty of discussion around and precedence that shows this isn't a
concern.

--tim

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