Hi Sue - In my experience (limited, but successful...) and from my understanding of Het Lassen (I have the book...), one of the essential "tricks" is to devise a path for the join which avoids cloth stitch areas. This is why your join sometimes goes in a meandering fashion through one or two repeats.
The best "routes" for the join are in areas where pairs are worked briefly and then parted, as in grounds. The groundwork provided the opportunity to join one layer to another in the least visible manner, provided you use a thread that is a great deal smaller than the thread you used for the lace itself. Assuming that "Het Lassen" is still available, (as well as the translation...) I recommend it as the best way to approach this task. It is clearly written (though not "simple"), and with some concentration, and practice, the results can be very pleasing. If this is NOT still available, it would be a wonderful opportunity for a dedicated lace organization to jump through the hoops to have it reprinted "for the greater good"... Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Original Message] > From: Sue Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: lace digest <lace@arachne.com> > Date: 4/17/2005 6:59:21 AM > Subject: [lace] Overlapping Joins > > I have been following this thread with interest as I have done a couple of > these joins in Valenciennes. So far I have not seen anyone mention how to > do these joins neatly where you have to cross cloth stitch! It has been > possible to join over ground or the ring pair except at the edge of the > pattern which usually has a cloth stitch area running the whole length of > the edge! This is the area that I find soooooooooooo difficult to do and > just cant get to look neat! Any ideas anyone? HELP! > > > Sue Fink > Masterton, New Zealand > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]