And because, with all this discussion of it, I haven't seen an explanation for anyone who is wondering:
S twist: the twist (or plies) go around the thread so the diagonal slants \\\ northwest down to southeast, like the diagonal of the letter S. Z twist: the twist or plies go around the thread so the diagonal goes /// northeast down to southwest, like the diagonal of the letter Z. Yes, I do draw S's and Z's in the air when I am checking twist. :) No, although it seems to be hardwired into the human brain to think this, you don't get a "Z" if you take an "S" from the far end, or vice versa. Try it on a piece of yarn for ease of seeing the twist: if you hold the piece vertically and check the twist, and then drop the end so that top becomes bottom, an S twist is still S. (And if you draw an S and a Z on a piece of paper and turn it 180 degrees, magically the S and Z are still an S and a Z. Kids of a certain age love this.) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com http://lost-arts.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]