On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote:

Let me suggest that the dragon- or rather salamander and the hedgehog might
hail from Retournac, France.

I don't know...

Lynn (Carpenter)'s Salamander:
http://lost-arts.blogspot.com/2007/07/here-be-dragon.html
the Retournac one:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2918355160048870129kGupRd

It is guipure lace. Unlike Bruges, where the salamander would be made
separately and then the background added, it is made like Lester type Bedfordshire, or Cluny lace, where the pairs come in directly from the background bars.

The Retournac one -- yes; it does look like it's all made in one goo, with a gadzillion, cleverly manipulated, pairs. The on Lynn found... While it's difficult to be absolutely certain on the basis of a photo, Lynn's Salamander does seem to have a fair amount of background pairs being sewn into pre-existing motif. And, if you look at Lynn's Salamander, the division between the spine and the body is, definitly, made with sewings (ie two different parts joined), not with the same pairs travelling from one part of the critter to the next. Ditto the division of the Salamander's mouth: can't tell about the Retournac one, but in Lynn's the workers of the two jaws don't just criss-cross; one worker makes a winkie turn and the other sews into that loop.

Another difference is the background itself; the one in the Retournac's Salamander is much more "involved". And the fire... In Retournac's mat, the Salamander is breathing/blowing it. In Lynn's, the Salamander is just looking at it; the fire element is totally "divorced" from the animal, as well as being positioned differently.

It is, of course, entirely possible that Lynn's Salamander was an attempt to copy the Retournac one, from a souvenir someone had brought from there; the Salamander itself is quite similiar, with the same areas using some -- though not all -- of the same stitches. But, if so, Lynn's mat has been made on a greatly simplified pricking. I don't think both mats would have been made in the same place, by the same "stable" of lacemakers.

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Tamara P Duvall                            http://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA     (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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