Of course the thing that make Arachne what it is, is the people. The people would be the same, hopefully, no matter what the software. We used to have software that wouldn't accept html. Fortunately Avital was able to upgrade the software, or debug it, or whatever she did that made it possible to go on with more modernized software. I have to agree with Lorelei that I love the Ning software. If you go to _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/) you can see it in action. It is not Facebook, so there is no reason to be afraid that Facebook problems will arise. The advantage of using Ning is that you can insert photos very easily into the text, so that you can be having a discussion in which you insert a diagram, or a photo. You can insert a series of photos showing all the steps in a process. Beginners are able to post pictures of their work, and receive feed back, or else pose questions that can then be answered with visual responses, pictures or diagrams, as well as text. I particularly like to scan a small area of lace at high resolution and then start arguments about what is happening in the lace :-) When people disagree with me, I can consider their argument, scan more areas, mark them up with arrows to indicate the tricky part, draw diagrams, etc. They can produce diagrams to support their point of view, and in the end we all know a lot more than we did before. I find it to be quite exciting. The Arachne software is lacking this visual component. Although it is possible to announce that you have just posted a photo on the webshots site, and for people to go to that photo, it is not as fluid as inserting the photos directly into the text. Here are some examples of using visuals in the text. Devon Here are links to some pages of discussion from the BEGINNERS group last year. _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?g roupUrl=beginners&groupId=5118721%3AGroup%3A215&id=5118721%3ATopic%3A897&pag e=8#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?gro upUrl=beginners&groupId=5118721:Group:215&id=5118721:Topic:897&page=8#comments) _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?g roupUrl=beginners&groupId=5118721%3AGroup%3A215&id=5118721%3ATopic%3A897&pag e=10#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/forum/topics/challenge-an-ongoing-workshop?groupUrl=beginners&groupId=5118721:Group:215&id=5118721:Topic: 897&page=10#comments) Here is a discussion under an ALENCON photograph with several detailed photos, but no diagrams. _http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/alencon-3-cl?context=album&albumId=511 8721%3AAlbum%3A4927&xgi=&test-locale=&exposeKeys=&xgsi=&id=5118721%3APhoto%3 A7723&groupId=&groupUrl=&xg_pw=&xg_disable_customizations=&page=1#comments_ (http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo/alencon-3-cl?context=album&albumId=511 8721:Album:4927&xgi=&test-locale=&exposeKeys=&xgsi=&id=5118721:Photo:7723&gr oupId=&groupUrl=&xg_pw=&xg_disable_customizations=&page=1#comments)
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