Marcin wrote: > This is perfect English and you could probably find Jane Austin or > Charles Dickens using such constructions.
I think this little discussion reveals a fundamental problem of an Open Source grammar checker, and perhaps of grammar checkers in general. In the back of my head, I've thought this for years. The more popular LT becomes over time, the more time we will probably have to spend fighting off "prescriptivist poppycock"[1]. There are a lot of people around who are well-meaning and intelligent and in some way interested in language and grammar, but are not trained linguists. This type of person will just take some grammar book (or even worse, a style manual) from their shelves and try to translate all the rules they happen to find there into LT rules, and they are unable to understand what the rule was originally intended to do. Eventually they end up doing more harm than good. The Hemingway app[2] is a good example of what I have in mind here. It complains about adverbs and gives useless advice such as "1 adverbs. Aim for 0 or fewer." The idea behind the rule is probably something like "don't use verb + adverb if the same thought can be expressed more clearly by choosing a more descriptive verb", e.g. don't say She moved quickly. but rather She ran. The second sentence is easier to understand and expresses a fact more accurately with less words, so it is in some way an improvement over the first. But it is by no means trivial to translate this idea to the XML formalism, or (more generally speaking) to something a computer can understand. Running around and telling people not to use adverbs is certainly not the way to go, it is just confusing. My first thought when Daniel published the new rule editor was, "Let's hope this tool will not bring us a bunch of grammar Nazis and nitpicky smartasses." These are just some thoughts I wanted to share. I'm not sure if I said something useful, or if these are just smartass remarks themselves. [1] http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?cat=5 [2] http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=10416 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs _______________________________________________ Languagetool-devel mailing list Languagetool-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/languagetool-devel