Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Thank you so much Terry for you expert analysis and interpretation of what Dr.
Iacono wrote. As an expert in the field, why don't you just point this stuff out
to Dr. Iacono. I do not feel like being a go-between by forwarding the info you
present to him and then relaying it back to you
All I know is that Dr. Lyyken and Dr. Iacono are reputable scientists so I hardly
think they would do something to jeopradize their careers. I do know that Dr.
Honts is an "expert witness" and is paid for his testimony. I also know that when
he cites Amato and another researcher--not Raskin--that they were both students of
his so I would expect they would have the same focus. I do not know the same for
Lyyken and Iacono. I also know that Honts focuses on this area to the exclusion of
any other area. This is not true of Lykken and Iacono. In fact, Lykken is
considered one of the leading experts on antisocial personality, so I guess if he
says countermeasures are successful at time, I prefer to go by his evidence. Also,
as Honts points out--with training 1/4 to 1/2 of the subjects can beat the lie
detector. Of course, he did mention that they could only beat it with *his*
training.
So, I prefer to keep my options open and you are free to keep the opinion that you
have about this subject. I am no longer interested in debating this subject with
you, as you negate everything that flies in the face of your argument that the
majority of the scientific community agree on the validity and reliability of the
polygraph. It just ain't so, but believe what you want.
jackief
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Hi Jackie,
>
> Prof. Iacono claims that his survey and the Gallup survey had nearly
> identical results while Honts' survey was significantly different, probably
> because of a poor response. Yet the Gallup survey found confidence in
> polygraph results among the best-informed respondents. But Iacono claims to
> have found the exact reverse: results "were not significantly different
> from those of less
> well informed respondents for almost all of the questions, including the one
> about which of the 4 statements 'best describes your own opinion of
> polygraph test interpretations' that was asked on all three surveys."
>
> Prof. Iacono did not say the Gallup survey misrepresented the findings or
> that Honts misrepresented the Gallup survey. It appears Prof. Honts would
> have found that OJ passed his polygraph.
>
> I find it strange that Prof. Iacono lays down conditions for sharing his
> research data that includes requiring that Honts go through a committee at
> the university. Was he afraid his data would be stolen? Since he had the
> original it could not be misrepresented for long.
>
> No one can argue that leaving Honts off his survey would have an appreciable
> effect on the accuracy of the survey but that is the only statement that
> Prof. Iacono makes that is not very questionable.
>
> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >I promise to let you know what Iacono replied if he did. Here it is
> verbatim, I
> >copied it and insert his reply. (Aren't you proud of me Kathy). Happy
> >reading!!
> >
> >jackief
> >
> >
> >
> >William G. Iacono wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for sending me the info on Honts criticisms of our work. The
> >> criticisms are without merit and hardly deserve acknowledgement, and I don't
> >> have time to point out why all of them are off base. But consider the
> >> following...
> >>
> >> In the published account of the survey (Journal of Applied Psychology,
> >> 1997), we point out that because the survey was prepared for a book chapter
> >> that Raskin, Honts and Kircher as well as Iacono and Lykken were
> >> contributing to, we eliminated ourselves as well as them from the survey
> >> pool (presumably our opinions were well represented in our contributions to
> >> this book). Since there were almost 200 hundred respondents to the survey,
> >> it is not possible for the elimination of ourselves or them to have had any
> >> significant effect on the outcome.
> >>
> >> Second, we agreed to share the data with Honts and Amato provided certain
> >> conditions were met, such as there having their request reviewed by their
> >> university IRB (the Board that approves research with humans as meeting
> >> ethical standards). Apparently they didn't like the conditions.
> >>
> >> Third, when we examined the results of our survey for just well informed
> >> respondents, the results were not significantly different from those of less
> >> well informed respondents for almost all of the questions, including the one
> >> about which of the 4 statements "best describes your own opinion of
> >> polygraph test interpretations" that was asked on all three surveys. In the
> >> Gallup survey, comparing more informed to less informed respondents also
> >> produced no significant differences as a result of how informed respondents
> >> were. Only the Amato and Honts survey, to which only a third of those polled
> >> responded, found a difference between more and less informed respondents.
> >> This response anomaly is most likely due to their having a sample that is
> >> not comparable to those in the other two surveys because it is not
> >> representative.
> >>
> >> I hope this information is useful to you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
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> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective
> >
> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room"
> >
> >
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> Best, Terry
>
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