Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jeez, Bill
You will turn my head!! I just was so excited about all the stuff I got in
the mail yesterday I wanted to share it with you all. Even though my week
started out pretty awful, the last two days have made up for it. Good stuff
in the mail yesterday and our trip to watch the state supreme court hearing
oral arguments today. Made up for Monday's Psychology test nightmare.
jackief
William J. Foristal wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
>
> HI Jackie,
>
> Wow, what a wealth of information you've included in this post. Thanks
> for posting it! I wonder if the Supreme Court had any of that
> information when they refused to prohibit the banning of lie detector
> results in court. This is a classic example of needing to get ALL the
> information available before coming to a knee jerk opinion of the overall
> validity of lie detector tests with respect to determining whether a
> subject is telling the truth.
>
> My only comment about your numbers concerning those on death row is that
> it seems to prove the DP is not a deterrent to others. If it were, then
> the numbers of people on death row should decrease instead of increase.
>
> Once again, you've become the star of the day on the law list. :)
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 19:50:29 -0500 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >Hi Bill
> >
> >Just received the journal article written by Iacono and Lykken from
> >the APA.
> >Pretty interesting stuff for those interested in the polygraph
> >controversy
> >and interested in whether the methodology was flawed. One interesting
> >thing
> >I found is that they had put their survey together based on the
> >recommendations of Dillman and his colleagues. Dillman is "the
> >expert" in
> >survey construction, especially main surveys. I spent many agonizing
> >hours
> >over his material--every research class I had included Dillman.
> >Iacono and
> >Lykken covered everything that could be covered, IMO--the respondents'
> >appraisal of the validity of the CGT polygraph being administered
> >under
> >adversarial conditions by the police vrs being administered through a
> >defense
> >attorney, as an example.
> >
> >The other very interesting thing is the response rates of the Gallup
> >Poll,
> >The Amato survey, and this survey. The Gallup Organization did not
> >provide
> >information on the response rate to their survey and was conducted in
> >1984;
> >the Amato survey had a response rate of only 30% and Iacono & Lykken
> >had a
> >response rate of 91% of the 214 deliverable surveys to
> >psychophysiologists
> >and of the 226 deliverable surveys of APA Fellows there was a 74%
> >retured
> >usuable questionaires. The original number of surveys to SPR were
> >216--2
> >returned as nondeliverable. For APA Fellows, 249 were mailed--9 were
> >nondeliverable, and 14 were either now deceased or unable to respond
> >for
> >health reason. They violated radnomness to the extent of excluding
> >from the
> >SPR sample themselves, member of their department, and Raskin, et al.
> >For
> >APA, the only ones excluded were from their department. Nothing
> >unethical
> >in this exclusion that I can think of.
> >
> >Also received in the mail (guess it was my lucky day) the latest
> >Bureau of
> >Justice Bulleting on Capital Punishment in 1996. I was surprised to
> >learn
> >that at yearend, 1996, there were 3,219 prisoners under sentence of
> >death--5%
> >more than at yearend 1995. Yep, Sue, California had the largest
> >number
> >(454). There were 48 women under sentence of death in 1996. Among
> >persons
> >(data available), average age at time of arrest was 28 On Dec. 31,
> >1996, 70%
> >were age 25 to 44, the youngest was 17 (1); the oldest, 81. From 1977
> >to
> >1996, there have been 5,154 persons entering prison under sentence of
> >death.
> >During these years, 358 have been executed, and 1,957 were removed
> >from under
> >a death sentence by appellate court decisions and reviews,
> >commutations, or
> >death. More than you ever wanted to know about capital punishment
> >prisoners
> >and hadn't asked. : )
> >
> >jackief
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
> >William J. Foristal wrote:
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 06 Apr 1998 15:43:40 -0500 Jackie Fellows
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> writes:
> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Bill
> >> >
> >> >I don't think anyone was discounting the polygraph if used under
> >> >strict
> >> >procedures and with the knowledge that many other extraneous things
> >> >can
> >> >affect the readings. However, putting blind faith into these
> >things
> >> >is not
> >> >"my cup of tea" simply because there is still too much controversy
> >> >about
> >> >them. Honts, even although implicitly, verified that in he
> >realized
> >> >as a lie
> >> >detector he needed more education to really be able to use them
> >> >properly.
> >> >This was after he had had education in administering the polygraph
> >> >after
> >> >training in local law enforcement and with the FBI. And, most
> >> >examiners do
> >> >not have the FBI training, let alone the other more advanced
> >training.
> >> >
> >> >I wonder if the experts would have enough time to get on the list
> >for
> >> >a
> >> >period of time?? But, it is worth asking them if I get a chance to
> >> >meet
> >> >them. Mentioned I had wrote to Iacono to some of the other
> >psychology
> >> >teachers here and they said "Not the, Iacono!" I was happy that he
> >> >took the
> >> >time to answer our questions.
> >> >
> >> >Well, better get off for a little bit--don't want the red glare to
> >get
> >> >too
> >> >much for your eyes : )
> >> >
> >> >We have another minor "court problem" now in this area--whether the
> >> >hearing
> >> >impaired are receiving the assistance in court they need by having
> >a
> >> >skilled
> >> >signer to interpret for them. Our poor court system is taking a
> >> >beating--first the release of the preadjudication records, now
> >this.
> >> >
> >> >jackief
> >>
> >> HI Jackie,
> >>
> >> I think you've put the lie detector discussion in it's complete and
> >> correct context. I agree about the experts probably not having time
> >to
> >> spend on computer discussion groups. OTOH, if they have written
> >books
> >> they can use the opportunity to hype them. :)
> >>
> >> I think it's good that courts are constantly challenged to provide a
> >fair
> >> venue for everyone, no matter what their disability may be.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
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