"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Hello Terry,

There appears to be no fully satisfactory solution in all cases for what to
do with those who commit the crime of murder.  I have felt the DP was more
correct in some instances and LWOP in others.  I really don't think one can
say the DP deters murder any more than one can say it does not.  Some may
be deterred and others not.  

                                        Joan

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L&I Justice
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 7:12 AM
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> Hi Joan and Richard,
> 
> Richard does indeed point out some of the problems of LWOP, which is a
dodge
> used by many opponents of the death penalty.  It is lazy thinking or more
> accurately sloganeering to head off the heedless passion of those who
demand
> the death penalty.  There is no rational argument for the death penalty. 
It
> may actually increase murders but it does not deter them to the best of
our
> ability to understand.  The victims' family and friends are ignored in
> either case.  Families in Oklahoma City and innumerable other cases have
> begged for the life of the killers.  Their voices are as little heeded as
> those who cry out for vengeance.  
> 
> The greatest problem with the death penalty is the fallibility of our
very
> faulty justice system which is designed for drama rather than truth.  Our
> fine governor, George Pataki, who proudly proclaims his reinstatement of
the
> death penalty once used the case in Illinois where two men were
railroaded
> in the rape/murder of a young girl to scream about the abominable and
> unjustified delays in carrying out the death penalty.  Prosecutors and
> investigators have been indicted for the things prosecutors and
> investigators often do.  The killer as usual goes unpunished.  Killers
> usually do in this country.
> 
> >"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >Hello Sody,  
> >
> >You make a valid point as to how merciful LWP really is.  Also, a point
> >about the goal of rehab when the individual will not be released or will
be
> >released many so very many years in the future.  I don't have a hard and
> >fast position on the DP.  I find myself able to agree with it in some
> >instances and not in others.  
> >
> >                                     Joan
> 
> Richard Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >>  How can you justify putting anyone in a cell for twenty five years?? 
I
> >> see no sense in our present system of criminal justice.  Prisons if
you
> >> must have them should be a sincere effort to reform the individual and
> >> getting him back as a productive member of society.  If that is not
> >> possible than dispose of him so that he is no longer a burden on
society.
> >> I can't imagine anything more horrible that sentencing a young person 
(
> >or
> >> an old person either) to Life Without Parole, really Life Without
Hope..
> >On
> >> one hand we talk of assisted suicide and euthanasia as a relief for
such
> >a
> >> life and on the other condemn people to that very thing in the justice
> >> system.
> >> Someone suggested twenty five years for a thirteen year old.  In jail
> >until
> >> thirty eight??  What kind of a person will he be and what kind of life
> >will
> >> he be able to lead??
> >> I guess I am the Dr. Kevorkian of law and order.
> >> 
> >> The dirty old Gandy Dancer
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> Best,     Terry 
> 
> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law"  - The Devil's Dictionary 
> 
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