On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:37:13 +0100 (CET)
> Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> > 
> > > That's very noble of you. But also very vague.
> > > 
> > > The gtk2 will never run on the level of gtk1. Most things can and
> > > will be done better, some things like speed and library stability
> > > can not be reached. 
> > 
> > Can you elaborate on this ?
> > What is wrong with GTK that it is not possible to get it stable ?
> 
> Don't misunderstand me. gtk1 can be used to write stable apps.
> And the lacking features could be done with X calls and a few hacks
> accessing the private structures of gtk1. But this code would be harder
> to maintain and not portable.
> Examples: unicode, rtl, window z ordering, focussing

Out of these, I seem to be needing none... 

There are many other missing things which seem much more important to 
me, which are doable in GTK 1 as well...

> Theoretically we could say, these are feature and not needed for a
> 'stable' lazarus version, but IMHO and many users I talked too, this
> would be taken as fake. These things must work better in a 1.0.

But it will take ages to complete this ? 

Is a GTK 2.0 on the roadmap for 1.0 ?
I would be glad if just the current bugs (not counting unicode)
were fixed. That would be enough to warrant a 1.0 release.
You have to release it once, after all...

> > > The gtk1 lacks some features and has some bugs. The
> > > gtk2 has other bugs.
> > > 
> > > IMHO the gtk1 lacks too many things for a lazarus 1.0. We have to
> > > take gtk2 for that.
> > 
> > A bold statement, given that Lazarus works since ages with GTK 1 ?
> 
> We got more spoiled in all these years. ;)

As far as I'm concerned: Yes you are ;-)

I'm still very happy with the GTK 1 version. It does all I need. 
But maybe I'm too modest in my expectations :-)

Michael.

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