> From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Pedro Barreto wrote:
> > great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
> > 
> > but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a 
> while?? I don't
> > know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 years, 
> there is always
> > a better browser next pc ;)
> 
> I had used lynx about 35 minutes before I read the first message
> in this thread that mentioned it. I most often use it when I'm
> ssh'd into my home machine from work and browsing via that.

agreed, I won't discuss that, it's obvious that we all have times that lynx
is the only one available, just saying that it ain't that much!

> 
> > my opinion is make it simple, but should we stop in time? 
> should we loose
> > some benefits like readability, and easy access to 
> information? we can't
> 
> You have that modern web-designer disease - in order to have a
> good page, or good readability and information access, we must
> make it in such a way that lynx is not good with.
> 

no, please! don't say that! my only consern was not 'visual design', but
funcional design, I'll try to explain: sometimes, when you design a page,
tables don't align with each other, paragraphs are not indented, etc.. and
thats when css has to be used. thats the kind of 'not so simple' stuff I was
talking about, not 'space age maketing design'!

for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in Portuguese, but
comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's the stupid IIS
that can't serve for more than 1 day! I burned my redhat server's power
supply!!! now I have to live with ms until my lazy ass decides to restore my
server.

> Very readable, attractive pages can be done up that still look
> fine in lynx.

once more, agreed

> 
> > afford it, most people just click back even before the third network
> > intensive paragraph, and being this a network related project that
> > paragraph probably must be intensive, so I think we should 
> work on the
> > presentation.

some times, sparsed and well distributed info, make the dense paragraph easy
to read.

> 
> Those people click back because said paragraph is too intense,
> not because the page is unattractive.
> 
> As long as the page isn't ugly, I don't think very many people
> will click back before they read a little first. What's important
> to keeping them, then, is to have easily readable stuff - and
> that doesn't just mean style; it means content, too.
> 
> > keeping it very simple! not lynx simple, just simple! :D
> 
> Lynx simple is workable.

does lynx supports css already?

pedro

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