Hello Scott I 'm afraid you're right in most points.
I think you understood my user very well, and you're right that he
probably won't be our user so fast. ;)
I also see the problems you describes from the point of view of the
ISP but don't you think the Jacks should have their Leaf
box,certainly not with to much features. Now they go in the
internet with a dsl modem, use somekind of "sharing " programms.
and forget how much damage can be done.
I wonder every time how ignorant even "professional " user are now
and then. But the jacks of this world react on newspaper articles
now and then.
> Eric:
> Heya. I'm not trying to be facetious here at all,
> but I wanted to comment: Jack Home-User is the target
> market for most "home-networking" stuff, but the reality
> appears to be that Jack doesn't want to buy any of that
> stuff yet.
Your absolutely right
> What I mean is, in a way, the next-big-Internet thing
> of post-PC info-appliance era of 'home-networking' is a victim
> of the Internet's early success. For example, when Jack connects
> to E-Trade to sell CSCO, there's about 5 different networks and
> 50 computers his transaction goes thru. For him it's a mouse
> click. All of the "heavy lifting" and troublesome networking
> equipment has been hidden from Jack, and he *likes* it that way.
> It's a very intimidating prospect to then convince him that "now
> you should *buy* some of that equipment and put it in your own
> home". Errrrr...*sure* he will.
You are right again, but perhaps one day, if there is another
spectacular case of breaking in in a large computer network or if
like for a few year thousands of dialin loginnames and passwords
were stolen by a kind of trojan and he has to pay for every minute
of connection. He starts to calculate.
>
> I've spent a lot of time thinking about this conundrum
> (way too much time), and IMNSHO the only way that Jack Home-User
> is ever going to have a home-network is if his ISP bundles one
> when he upgrades to a broadband modem. That is, it's not just
> a modem anymore, it's one of those fancy-smancy 'residential
> gateways' from someone like 2Wire. The current problem is that
> those things cost $400 to build, since they're typically stuffed
> with expensive OS's (WindRiver) and expensive embedded firewalls
> (SonicWall) and high-end embedded processors (like Philip's
> Tri-Media processor).
> What this "bundled gateway" market needs, obviously,
> is a gateway box that costs $50 to build because it uses LEAF
> and a low-low-end 486: the casing is more expensive than the
> content.
When do we build it ;)
> That solves the OEMs problem. But now the ISP has a
> problem: it's not really in their financial interest to give
> Jack a gateway to begin with. They don't meter his bandwidth
> (this is Jack, not Jauque in this model ;), and since they
> bundled the gateway, and it's got all these advanced features,
> Jack Home-user is now most likely to call the ISP to ask for help
> setting the thing up. Jack's only paying $35/mo for broadband
> service, and a single tech-support call costs $20 just to answer
> the phone. So Jack becomes too-expensive a proposition to give a
> gateway to, and so they don't. Wither the 2Wires of the world. :)
Do it as they do it here let him call, keep him 10 minutes or more
in the waiting state but tell him in the first minute he has to pay $2
a minute :)
> What the ISPs want, really, is to somehow discover a new
> revenue stream from these gateways and people like Jack. Would
> Jack pay an extra $5 a month "maintenance service" for his new
> gateway? He might, if it *really* did something valuable for him.
> Could the ISPs offer such a service to Jack: a web-based remote
> maintenance service which they could resell for more than they
> paid for? They might, if I ever get EchoWare finished. :)
If they put a dsl modem in their houses why not integrate or couple a box
The german telekom is doing everything to get the people from their ISDN
to DSL ( pricing flatrate isdn $40 DSL 768/128 kbits $25 /month)
I followed the list of a german variant with a 2.0 kernel and Least
cost routing for some time but a good windows remote control and
configuration utility.There was moderate trafic. As this adress was
published in an article of Chip (computing) in combination with an
article about insecurity in the web, the traffic became so high that i
canceled my subscription :) .
in other words, the jacks don't know that they need it. The ISP only
want them to have it as long as it doesn't cost them and it is easy
to maintain and configurate.
Thanks for the reaction-
Eric
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