Well,
Worse for me. I'm a cross over NT sys engineer, though I did start in DOS.
I'll give you a clue, then I have to go to bed. If you would like I'll do a
brief summary of what I've figured out. I'm probably going to do it anyway.
Here's a brief brief, not verified for errors, but it'll do for now. Mike
probably knows more. :)
The LDP Authors guide is being updated as we speak, and they have released a
newer version this last week IU think. SGML is the older, more robust
standard that has been around a while. The tools are more advanced, the
documentation is more developed, etc.
The whole thing is in transistion and standards approval for XML support
(which the LDP Authors How To recommends) just started about 2 months ago.
They are updating the docs and such, but as recent LDP list discussions that
I and another started indicate, they too are a volunteer organization that
is struggling to keep up. (Though I had a pretty good rant on their list
myself -did you see it Mike N? :) The problem is that their Authors guide
wasn't updating when I started and my and one others prompted the update.
Worse than slaughtering HTML, different. With HTML you say BOLD or ITALICS
or CENTER, etc. With Docbook you don't. You say <emphasis>words</emphasis>
and the DTD when fed through Openjade with determine HOW the emphasis is
handled. In HTML it might be BOLDed, in PDF it might be italisiced,
whatever the DTD rules said.
One other guy whom I started corisponding with is in the same boat. I may
do a 'cross' over guide for what I have learned int he last month. I also
have O'Reilly's Learning XML book.
Near as I can figure, a DTD is an instruction set for how 'tagged' text is
expected to be handled when it is converted to a format. ie. <para>words
here</para>
If you render that in HTML, then it will behave one way, but if you have it
render into PDF or RTF format, then the DTD determines 'how' that will look
in that form. You can write your own DTD's, but I figure the experts have
one they agree on, so I will use it.
You also have to have to run it through a third party (openjade in this
case) engine to do the conversion, if the engine thinks your document
(source code) has problems, then it will puke and give you a line number to
check. I have to figure out how to do the that step in a few days when I am
done. Evidently, there can be no errors.
Now, what I have done, is downloaded the XML source for the LDP's Authors
Guide and I am using that as a template for my how to. Simple eh?
In any case, nite all, WAY past my bedtime.
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Steven Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sacramento, CA http://leaf.blkmtn.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Schalit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] does the lrp project have any
> response to this
>
>
> Steven Peck wrote:
> >
> > > ...DocBook...
>
>
> > I finally filtered through all the technical jargan and I
> have re-written
> > most of what I have, added a bit. Next up is validating
> with OpenJade.
> > 'Course I have to get that to work, but I have confidence
> that I will get
> > the tools to work.
> >
> > After all, it isn't following the instructions, it figuring
> out what the
> > hell the instructions mean. :)
> >
>
>
>
> No doubt! I'm still pissed off about trying to understand
> the DocBook FAQ which starts off by telling me that DocBook
> is an sgml dtd or something. For the love of Pete!
> I just wanted the thing to compile and go away.
>
> I've got no clue what dtd is, a fertilizer?
> I have a bad feeling it has to do with slaughtering html.
> What the heck is going on here? I came from a time when
> there wasn't any Windows Web Server, and any sane person
> ran CERN httpd on Unix. Mosaic was just as good as
> Netscape 0.94beta as long as you didn't ask it to print.
> Everything was aligned along the left hand margin, and
> you _liked_ it. So who came along and said a bunch of crack heads
> could make sgml dtd's?
>
> I know, it's the people who think we still run Materhorn :)
>
> Must be time for a nap :-/
> Matt
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