Paul,
Your seasoned intuition is not that far off in the topic of Micro$oft
& XML. I believe Micro$oft did made a boo-boo when hardcoding IE to
recognize the XSLT header, which is in violation of the standard.
Basically, trying to inject its own "proprietary" into the IE when
dealing with XSLT document.
I'll take a look at the LRP config files & see if we can map them out
cleanly into XML. Will post the result for comments in the next couple
days.
Cheers,
Ly
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Paul Batozech wrote:
>
> "Anh (Ly) Vuong" wrote:
> >
> > XML is an open standard (w3.org), and it should be judged on features
> > and capabilities; not on who have XML products!
>
> Ly
>
> My intent is not to dismiss XML, or to imply that it's a Microsoft
> brainchild. It's just that whenever Microsoft gets behind an 'open' or
> 'cross-platform' standard alarm bells go off. Call this the rantings of
> a paranoid if you will, but the usual Microsoft ulterior motives seem to
> be at work here: Co-opt a standard, proprietize it with closed
> 'enhancements', integrate it into the largest installed base, thus
> converting an open standard into a closed proprietary one by virtue of
> market share. I'm not aware of Microsoft 'tinkering' with XML yet, but
> is it not merely a matter of time? Sun was able to prevent this
> happening to Java because of Sun's monetary resources. TCP/IP resisted
> due to an installed base bigger than even Microsoft. I hope XML is as
> lucky (maybe that's an excellent reason to use XML even more).
> >
> > I am favor the XML because of following capabilities:
> > - ASCII texts, easy to display, process & transmit
> > - It can handle structured data
> > - Well defined documents
> > - It integrates well with various software procducts
> > - Many implementations, on many platforms & variety of languages
> > (Java, C, C++, Perl, Python...)
>
> Yes, I agree, all very good attributes.
>
> I'll get down off my soapbox now, and hope I didn't send this thread to
> off topic.
>
> Regards
> Paul
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ly
> > -----
> > Paul Batozech wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking... (this is odd :) and I came with one more idea about home
> > > > user interface, and it goes like this...
> > > >
> > > > if we manage to create a XML schema or some other LEAF standart to store
> > > > filter rules and other config data, I could code a win32 app client to
> > > > provide a easy UI for rules creation, log view, and overall config for home
> > > > routers. that way the average home user, simply deploys a LEAF image, goes
> > > > to his/her win machine, installs the app and uses some wizards to configure
> > > > the router.
> > > >
> > > > that wizard would change the default password, apply interface IP changes,
> > > > act on the rule set, config the log options, daemons, test internet
> > > > connection, config traffic shaping (when fully supported), etc...
> > > >
> > > > users run this wizard on upon the LEAF system installation, and use the app
> > > > subsequently for minor changes, log viewing, package updating, etc..
> > > >
> > > > this win client would connect via ssh.
> > > >
> > > > all this providing that LEAF is able to store his configs on some sort of
> > > > standart like XML.
> > > >
> > > > comments please...
> > >
> > > All
> > >
> > > This is a good idea, especially for a target audience of typical 'Joe
> > > home user with a new cable/DSL connection', however I'd be opposed to
> > > doing it in XML more or less on philosophical grounds. I only go with
> > > proprietary Micro$oft solutions as a last desperate resort:) As LEAF is
> > > an open source project some other mechanism, seems much more
> > > appropriate. I find the quote below, from Petreley's column on
> > > LinuxWorld, sums it up quite nicely.
> > >
> > > "In fact, I'd bet people refer to XML as a technology these days only
> > > because Microsoft has succeeded in its bizarre public relations campaign
> > > to position XML as a replacement for Java. Microsoft undoubtedly hopes
> > > that by the time people notice that XML versus Java is a crackbrained
> > > comparison, Microsoft will have already shoved Java out of the picture
> > > and replaced it with the C# language. Good luck, Microsoft."
> > >
> > > The whole text can be found at:
> > > http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-01/lw-01-penguin_4.html
> > >
> > > I'm no Java evangelist, there are other cross-platform solutions as
> > > well. Php, Python? Pedro's idea is a good one, I cringe at the thought
> > > of tainting things with M$ though.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > >
> > > > pedro
> > > >
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