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I don't think ICSA certification is suitable at this point in time for
the whole LEAF project, but if someone choose to sell a LEAF variant and
certify it, that's their own business so long as the source is readily
available.

> 
> > (though a successful certification, admittedly, will), but rather 
> > to explore opening a 'new market' for things LEAF'y. I'm sure
> > such things have happened before to other open-source projects
> > (was there discuss like this when Cayote appeared? Or when tripwire
> > went commercial?), but I've never been on a mailing list when 
> > someone first brought it up  (hey, a first).
> 
> I think we're all looking at lots of firsts, together.
> 

IIRC there was very little discussion around Coyote's appearance -- they
didn't post anything on the mailing list or announce their intentions or
anything. Just one day requests for help starting showing up which said
their version was Coyote LRP, and everyone said "what's that?" :-) I
beleive Dave Cinege maintains a personal list of commercial efforts
using LRP but it isn't on the web page. He did post it to the
linux-router list one time though, and it was about fifteen products.
Basically a small router is going to run picoBSD, LRP, Cisco IOS or
VxWorks.

> >     Please let me know your thoughts, feel free to flame if 
> > needed. :) I've got too much respect for you people to consider
> > this without asking about it WAY up front.
> 
> Okay, here it is:
> 
> Why is it that we feel this need to target that demographic?
> 
> Why do we even talk about targetting _any_ demographic?
> 
> We need to investigate out motives thoroughly, IMO. The point of
> opensource projects is _not_ supposed to be to target a demographic
> or put out a better 'product' than somebody else; rather, what makes
> the opensource world go around is the pursuit of excellence. A good,
> successful opensource project's goal is to make it's work better
> than it already is. Is that what we're going after, or are we going
> after popularity?
> 
> I keep asking this, but nobody seems to answer, or even notice what
> I'm really asking here...What are we doing? Why? Is it excellence
> we're going after, or something else? What _should_ we go after?
> 
> Of course, what do I know; who am I...just another one of us
> schmoes on this list. :)

I agree with you. I deal with enough mktg in my day job, and I do this
project to make good technical solutions which provide alternatives to
the mktg-soaked junk on the market today. I don't personally care for
target-marketing LEAF variants.

> 
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> -- 
> rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open.
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