On Friday 12 July 2002 12:31, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 15:45, guitarlynn wrote:

> Lynn,
> Thanks for the feedback. :-)
> I was hoping these proposals would generate more discussion than they
> have. I'd really appreciate additional feedback from our project
> members. I don't want to start affiliating with companies or create a
> consultants list, if it's going to upset our project members.

Agreed, and my opinion certainly doesn't necessarily reflect anyone
else's opinion.


> > If they're gleaning LEAF GPL'ed code and charging for it, it would
> > seem fair ....(fill in the blank).  :-(
>
> Would you elaborate on this? How does it apply to the corporate
> affiliation idea above?

Personally, I would be against something similar to a company taking a
LEAF CD/IDE release, putting a closed-source web-configuration
application on it, and selling it.... unless a large amount of the core
distribution was also re-written. I am against adding one or
two packages to a stock GPL'ed release and selling it as opposed
to simply selling the package that they are offering. The current
development of anti-virus/email-scanning for commercial use
is an example of something that is fine with me.... they are selling
their own code/package.

IPNuts is quite fairly an entity of it's own right and the core is a
highly modified LRP 2.9.8, which allows them the right to use it
commercially (IMHO). My original concerns where over their use
of LEAF VPN packages (IPSec, PPTP, CIPE, etc...) only on their
for-sale releases and promoting these packages with web-configuration
as the reason to buy it. If I interpreted the response correctly, they
are not using LEAF VPN packages, but rather some other closed-source
VPN program instead. My other concern(s), is their use of incorperating
Bering and Dachstein IDE, CD-ROM, and wireless code into the sale-only
products w/o making a similar product available for free (only the
floppy is free and not in development anymore as I understand it).
Any concerns over the use of Dachstein and Bering code in this 
way should be expressed by the respective authors.

In closing, if your planning to sell code, then write it and sell what
is yours (or largely yours) to sell. If your not planning to write much
code, but need to make money, do it with consulting and the labor that
you personally put in. I've sold a bit of consulting and LEAF installs,
but never once have I thought of charging for the software.
-- 

~Lynn Avants
aka Guitarlynn

guitarlynn at users.sourceforge.net
http://leaf.sourceforge.net

If linux isn't the answer, you've probably got the wrong question!


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