Am Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2011, 18:34:01 schrieb Mike Noyes: > On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 08:10 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: > > Subject was: Re: [leaf-devel] Separate Git branch for 4.1-fixes ? > > On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 20:59 +0200, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote: > > - snip - > > > > > Also the leaf-user list is quiet - are there no users any longer, or > > > are they just satisfied with the work and use LEAF silently? > > > > KP, > > Unknown. Leaf-user shows 459 members, so there are still people paying > > some level of attention to leaf. > > Everyone, > All marketing ideas are welcome. > > > > The 190 downloads in two weeks may also be a good number, given that > > > LEAF has zero press in the last years > > > > This is my fault. I haven't worked on marketing since we discontinued > > our project domain (leaf-project.org). Nor have I updated our website. > > > > * No listing on distrowatch.com > > Anyone with time and desire, feel free to attend to this task.
A look at the "waiting list", which goes back to 2004, doesn't look encouraging. > > * Old website > > I suggest we backup the content in phpWebsite, and change the default > website to: > > http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -> > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/leaf/ > > Add prominent links to: Trac, IdeaTorrent, and Gitweb > > http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/leaf/ > http://sourceforge.net/apps/ideatorrent/leaf/ > http://leaf.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb-index.cgi > > Old phpWebsite content backup: > http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/leaf/sourceforge/phpwebsite/ Mike, I disagree - while the wiki has matured into a well structured documentation (thx to David for doing most of the work), a wiki can't replace a well done website. I've always liked the idea to move to drupal (or any other CMS) as main page - thus we get something looking interesting and fresh, while we do have still room to support different versions. IMHO, before we go with a wiki-based homepage, we'd better stick with the current one, even it looks old-fashioned. > > * Haven't installed hook script for git commit mailing list > > I'll attend to this. Thx. > > The cumulative effect of these problems may make our project look dead > > to the casual observer. Maybe, but it isn't justified by facts (if someone looks carefully on the webpage, git, trac and mailing-lists etc, it still shows an active project) - and it's definitely your personal fault, if there is something wrong, it's the "projects" fault. I might have been clear - "no press" was just mentioned as "a fact", not as accusation. > > > > > - though I do believe it's as good as any other small distro given > > > the task it's developed for. > > > > Agreed. > > > > > Maybe it's lack of press is related to the lack of a fancy > > > web-interface, but then that's something *I* do not care about. > > > > Unfortunately, a GUI is expected by the majority of end users. > > > > Examples: > > LuCI > > http://luci.subsignal.org/ > > > > Unified Configuration Interface (UCI) > > http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/uci > > http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/techref/uci Just had a very short look, and without screenshots. most of the looks jus another layer between user and config, but probably still text-based. This GUI discussion is as old as the LEAF project... and it's just good for a wake-up call for longtime developers like Martin :)) Anyway, if someone wants to extend or replace the current webconf stuff, just go ahead, as long as it does not load new work to build packages (like the extra layers above). > > > I use LEAF for years as a rock-solid and as safe as possible > > > software for my routers - and it just works. > > > > Agreed, but I switched to OpenWRT quite a few years ago. It just made > > sense for my small home network. Routers like Netgear's WNDR3700v2 are > > more than sufficient for lots of users. Agree - just checked, and while the difference has shrunken, a comparable new x86 based router (Alix) still costs twice as much as the Netgear router you mentioned. Maybe something can be done about this next year. kp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Ciosco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev _______________________________________________ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
