Hi kp,

> It does cost about 300kb. Agreed that is a lot, but there is still room
> for improvements in other areas (AFAIK iptables and ip6tables has been
> merged, shorewall may shrink with the future versions) and finally speed
> and size will improved if we carefully cleanup initrd for i486 images.
>
> Although a LEAF device usually runs for a long without reboot, booting
> as quick as possible is a nice-to-have.
I tend to agree. While I've always been one to try to avoid bloat and 
keep things small, I would, in this case, trade speed for size.

Speaking for the boxes I maintain, they hardly ever go down - but if 
they do (for whatever reason - hardware failure, system upgrade, power 
outage longer than the UPS can handle, typing "reboot" in the wrong 
terminal), I'd like the box to be up again as quickly as possible, since 
it provides internet connectivity to public services I have to keep up 
and running (email, VPN, public bugzilla, internet access for my 
employees and so on). So, if the difference is "only" 300k, I'd go for 
it (even though I'm not affected by this change, since I no longer use 
lower end CPUs).

Rather than a fork - maybe an additional kernel/initrd can be provided, 
so the users can make the choice themselves? Those that are running on 
limited storage, can use the one that boots slower, but uses less 
storage, and those who have space to spare can use the one that boots 
faster. Providing several setups for the same kind of hardware might 
cause some confusion for users, but if the documentation clearly states 
which image/kernel/initrd to use for which purpose, it shouldn't be too bad.

Just an idea

Martin

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