At 01:19 PM 9/26/02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On 26-Sep-02 sr wrote:
> >
> > This leads me to another question: Why is another machine able to steal the
> > IP address like that with Linux? Even Windoze prevents this from happening
> > and just gives you an annoying popup to let you know someone else just
> > connected with the same IP.
>
>I also have noticed windows doing that, not really sure the exact mechanism
>they use, maybe looking at the ARP.


I have not seen this behavior under Windows. But then, I can't recall ever 
duplicating an IP address on a LAN I was managing (and I don't have enough 
non-essential hosts running here to do proper tests without disrupting the 
operation of the LAN). Could someone who has seen it please describe it a 
bit more exactly?

Under what circumstances does it occur? For example, if WinXX host A has IP 
address a.b.c.d, and WinXX host B tries to connect to the LAN using the 
same address, do *both* machines report an error right away? If not both, 
then which one? Does the version of Windows involved affect the answer?

Does the use of a switch (rather than a hub) affect the result? What about 
a router doing proxy arp for one of the hosts?

Does Windows-based (SMB) directory sharing seem to play any role in when 
this does and does not work?

Will Windows host A or B (as appropriate) detect the duplication if the 
other device is not a Windows PC (a Mac, or a Linux host, or an embedded 
device like an ISDN router)?

Although the off-the-shelf Linux setups I'm familiar with don't do any 
checking of this sort, I can see how adding some degree of checking would 
be readily doable. DHCP servers, for example, do arp addresses before 
issuing leases for them. For other parts, though, I'm at somewhat of a loss 
to see how in principle one might do it without creating a lot of system 
and network overhead.


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