Thanks for the feedback. We have been using FloppyFW for 2 years now.
It is hard for me to do an objective comparison of the two packages because
I have been personally using Eigerstein, Dachstein and now Bering. So I have
grown 
very  accustomed and comfortable to the way it is structured. I am trying to
convince
our head sysadmin to switch from FloppyFW to Bering /w shorewall 1.3.10.
With no
success. (sigh) 

Here are the "advantages" of FloppyFW.
- you can edit your firewall rules with a Unix text editor on your windows
box. (something like NoteTab lite.)
- Some would see the "building your own ruleset" as an advantage. I do not.
I prefer to have a tested and proven ruleset to start with and then change
it as I see fit.
- Virtually all editing and configuration of FloppyFW can be done with the
text editor mentioned above. Because all of the configs are kept as a series
of .ini files.
- FloppyFW is a firewall. No more. No less. The packages available for it
are very limited.

The disadvantages are as follows:
- It uses an older version of iptables. Floppy-FW uses 1.2.5 shorewall uses
1.2.6a 
- You can't stop|start|restart the firewall without rebooting the box.
- When the firewall loads the rules. The rules scroll by very quickly and
you can't use shift-page-up to backup and see what went wrong. It only goes
about two screens up.
- If there is a dnscache app for FloppyFW I have not seen it. (The packages
available are very limited.)

I would have to concede that our sysadmin is right when he says that
FloppyFW is working for us so there is no reason to change. But I was hoping
that we could migrate to a package that is "in my opinion" far better. I
guess I will have to wait until we require IPSEC to make my move and propose
Bering /w shorewall again. I was hoping that someone on the list could
provide me with some irrefutable evidence that moving from FloppyFW to
Bering is a prudent move. But I guess you are right. It must just come down
to preference. 

If anyone has anything to add to this please let me know.

Thanks. 

Troy



 -----Original Message-----
From:   Lynn Avants [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:21 AM
To:     Troy Aden
Cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: [leaf-user] FloppyFW vs. Bering 1.0 /w shorewall 1.3.10

On Wednesday 11 December 2002 08:35 am, you wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone has ever compared these two packages. I am just
> interested to know if anyone has a point by point comparison of the two
> packages. I don't seem to be making any headway and any good points
> regarding the security and functionality advantages of Bering vs. FloppyFW
> would be most helpful.

Bering is ultimately more flexible and supports a ton of more
hardware/protocols. If your running a cable modem or dsl and
only want 2 interfaces with no DMZ or IPSEC and build your own
firewall ruleset, FloppyFW would seem to be a feasible option.
I can't compare the security since FloppyFW doesn't have a 
"default" ruleset. There's nothing wrong with this, it's just a matter
of preference.

I'd be interested if you would try it and send me your opinion of
FloppyFW. 
-- 
~Lynn Avants
Linux Embedded Firewall Project developer
http://leaf.sourceforge.net


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