I'll try the tcpdump, thanks for the recommendations.  

I was on the phone with Netopia (the current router I put in bridging
mode is a Cayman/Netopia) to see if there were any VPN add-ons I could
buy for the Cayman so it could support the roadwarrior and gateway VPNs
I need.  Unfortunately there isn't anything for that model, but for $180
I can trade up to a Netopia 4541 which does have the VPN capabilities.
I think it's very similar software to the R7200 which I have successful
joined with LEAF.

Anyway, since this location is remote and I keep killing the connection
trying to troubleshoot requiring someone local to undo the last change
and reboot, and because I've come to hate BellSouth's PPPoE
implemenation, $180 for an ADSL modem/router/vpn gateway is a no brainer
if it will solve this problem.  

Anyone have any odds on whether moving to the all-in-one device will
help?  I'm not thrilled about losing the ability to add a DMZ in the
future and all the other flexibility LEAF provides, but the remote
troubleshooting has been brutal and I'm getting into a crunch.

Thanks,
Todd

> 
> I can't tell you what to look for other than you want to try 
> and capture 
> "broken" traffic.  If you've told us what sort of traffic 
> this is (web 
> browsing, file-sharing, e-mail, ftp, whatever), I don't recall.
> 
> I'd run tcpdump with the -n (or possibly even -nn) switch to keep the 
> generated logs more readable.  The intermixed arp and icmp 
> traffic can 
> be confusing, but is typically important.  There's also the potential 
> for lots of non-related traffic to clutter things up, 
> confusing things 
> even more.
> 
> If you can't figure out what's going on, post a chunk of the tcpdump 
> output along with a description of what you were trying to 
> test at the 
> time (and what other things might have been happening in the 
> background), and we can try to help decode it.  Don't try to 
> be helpful 
> and pull any lines from the tcpdump...you might pull something 
> significant and not realize it.
> 
> -- 
> Charles Steinkuehler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 



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