Hi Peter,

On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 06:38, Peter Mueller wrote:
> You have the right attitude, single-DES is crap.

You bet it is.  I cracked a 1DES key with a banana smoothie in a whisker
over 30 minutes last week.  :)

> However, ipsec.lrp does support single-DES.

Are you sure about this?  There's no mention of it anywhere, and the
FreeS/WAN docs say that by default 1DES support is included for 3DES
encryption, but unable to be used as a protocol in its own right - for
obvious reasons.

> Superfreeswan includes additional encyrption algorithm
> patches which Jacques includes.
> 
> RTM ;-) - http://leaf-project.org/devel/jnilo/bipack2.html
> 
> 12.8. ipsec.lrp
> This is the super-freeswan ipsec package. Refer to the Bering user's
> guide for explanations.
> Superfreeswan 1.99.6.2 is patched with the following patches: 
> NAT-Traversal, X509, ipsec_algs and port & protocols selector.

Yes, I read that before posting to this list, and since none of those
patches enable the use of 1DES, I asked the list for further
clarification.

> Current "Bering" version: 1.99.6.2
> 
> http://www.freeswan.ca/patches/

This lists the patches available, and I also went to this site before
emailing the list.  None of the 1DES patches seem to be applied
(sensibly) to the LEAF ipsec.lrp package.

> Hope that helps,

Not really.  The information you have given me basically says that 1DES
is not able to be used as a protocol, whereas you are saying it is able
to be used.  So, your suggestion is refuted by the links you gave as a
reference - actually muddying the issue, not clarifying it.  :(

- HiltonT

> > Yes, I thought this would be the case.  I'll have to look 
> > into this, but either way, a DES VPN is not secure, and I 
> > think I'll just tell the guys at the remote end that they 
> > have to supply a Linux box with DES support as I don't want 
> > to be held responsible for implementing such an insecure VPN 
> > solution.  :)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > HiltonT
> > 
> > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 15:19, M Lu wrote:
> > > Hi Hilton,
> > > 
> > > Bering ipsec.lrp is actually Superfreeswan 1.99.6.2, and I
> > > believe that FreeSWAN does not support single DES.
> > > 
> > > M Lu.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >From: Hilton Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: [leaf-user] ipsec.lrp - does it do plain old DES?
> > > >Date: 06 Jul 2003 12:54:07 +1000
> > > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >Does the behring ipsec.lrp module handle the insecure DES 
> > > >protocol?  I have a need for a DES-based Linux router for 
> > > >a short while, and if this works, then I'll use it. 
> > > >Unfortunately, the remote end cannot accept any secure 
> > > >IPSEC encryption protocols.  :(




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