Mike... thanks for the pointer to the project description & goals page.

LEAF is definitely a project in of itself -- being focused on routing,
firewalling, WISPing, etc. In fact, most of the development should focus on
those issues alone and not on the more mundane issues of installation,
package maintenance, and creating releases / branches.  It was for this
reason that I was suggesting that LEAF migrate to using a Debian (or
whatever) to take care of these more "mundane" yet complex issues.

For example, what I wanted was something along the lines of the LEAF WISP
distribution working together with PPPOE. While PPPOE works with Bering out
of the box, it does not easily with the WISP distribution. Moreover, WISP
clumps packages together into its own LRP packages, rather than reusing
those from Bering. Thus, without putting together the appropriate packages
for BERING or piecing together the appropriate files for WISP, one cannot
"easily" get this to work.

The bottom line is that from this respect LEAF has not reached its goal of
being "EASY". It certainly is "easier" than doing everything from scratch
(and I applaud everyone who has taken it this far), but it needs to get even
easier for people than where it is now.

What is nice about Debian is package management feature. There are others of
course... and I don't really care which one is used, as long as it makes it
EASY for people to configure a LEAF appliance with LEAF-related packages.

For example, what I would like is the ability to install a base LEAF system
and then easily customize it be whatever appliance I wish without having to
be concerned with the interdendencies of packages, editing a syslinux.cfg
file, etc. Moreover, I should be able to set up the LEAF box to easily
upgrade packages to the latest, greatest, stable form. But that's just me...

Marc


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Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Maybe LEAF should become a Debian mini-distribution?!
(wasRE: [leaf-user] LEAF Bering is NOT a ROUTER)


On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 11:05, Marc E. Fiuczynski wrote:
> I agree with Peter's notion that LEAF is basically a specialized Linux
> distribution. Developers create packages that are either included into a
> "release" or "branch". In that sense, LEAF is basically like Debian or
what
> have you, but specialized towards the use of routing.

Marc,
You may find this document of interest. It's a work in progress, but it
should give you an indication of where LEAF is going.

LEAF: Project Description & Goals (draft revision)
http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1396&group_id=13751



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