Well said, thanks George.

Eric

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Metz
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: Craig Caughlin
> Cc: LEAF (LEAF)
> Subject: Re: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...
> 
> Craig Caughlin wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
> > Thanks for the response. I think I'm like Alex, I don't quite
understand
> > what you mean when you say "Then the entire Internet gets access to
the
> > other side of your VPN without having to compromise your system."
Could
> > you explain that a little bit? Thank you.
> 
> It's fairly straightforward. Let's say you've got a machine on the
> internet with nothing between you and the 'net. You're running with a
> public IP(I'm gonna use a private, so just pretend) of 172.16.8.1 on
> your machine, and you're connected to a VPN. Routing is also turned on
> on this particular machine.
> 
> I'm a bit rusty on my Linux routing statements, but on a Cisco, the
> way you'd do it is:
> 
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.16.8.1
> ip route 172.16.8.1 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.1
> 
> Where the 192.168 address is the far side of your WAN connection. This
> provides a route to your machine, and tells the cisco to send ALL
> traffic to your machine for routing. After that it's a fairly
> straightforward issue to run an ICMP scan with a relatively low
> timeout setting on the 10/8, 172.16/12, and 192.168/16 IP blocks until
> you find a valid IP, then work on that area of the block and play with
> someone's corporate LAN.
> 
> So yeah, this can be a really, REALLY big security hole.
> 
> Just one thing; if you can browse while connected to a VPN, make
> CERTAIN that you're not browsing THROUGH the VPN before you go getting
> all panicky. It's certainly a strong likelihood, and AFAIK there's
> relatively little chance of the hole you're referring to from
> happening. (IOW, browsing on your public connection while connected
> via VPN.)
> 
> George Metz
> 
> 
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