OK.  My evidence for 'loses sync': the lights labeled DSL and ATM on the
modem go out.  Flash for a while, then come back on.

I can access any IP or URL that exists within the internal network.  IE; a
web server exists on host WWW (192.168.1.128) and I can access it via
http://www or http://192.168.1.128

However, I cannot access http://www.google.com or others.  If the modem is
'synced up', attempting to access an external page may start to load, but
the lights again go out on the modem and the page is not displayed.

DSL is PPPoE.  I don't think I can be too much more specific on the DNS
setup except standard DNSCache setup on the Bering box (ie; as suggested
when setting up PPPoE).  The Win2K machine is set as DNS server but to
forward unresolved requests to the Bering box.  The Bering box therefore, I
believe, will be supplied DNS info from the ISP (Sympatico, by the way).

Does this clarify?



                                                                                       
                                                        
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At 07:41 AM 11/25/2003 -0500, John Mullan wrote:
>Can anyone give me hints about what to look for?
>
>My DSL modem (apparently) loses sync when I try to access an external web
>site.  After it syncs back up, and I try again, I lose sync again.  Ping
>works the same way except if I try to ping an IP rather than URL.

Can you describe in a bit more detail what actual symptoms lie behind
"(apparently) loses sync" and "it syncs back up"? Are you actually seeing
the DSL modem's sync light (or whatever it is called on your device) go
off, then back on? And, just to be sure, the problem is associated with
*any* attempt at off-LAN DNS resolution (not just port-80 URLs), right?

George's response is correct as far as it goes -- problems with a DSL
modem's connectivity to your ISP are OSI layer-2, or possibly layer-1,
problems, and (putting aside the possibility of some bizarre interaction
deliberately introduced by your ISP, mentioned only because I don't put
*anything* beyond sufficiently stupid ISPs) layer-3 (IP) and layer-4 (TCP,
UDP) activities should not affect layer 2 (or 1).

If your evidence for loss of sync is more indirect than what I write above,

please provide additional details on the symptoms and on how you have DNS
set up.

If it is not more indirect, follow George's advice in the first instance.
(Except focus on port 53, not port 80, if the problem occurs with pings by
FQN as well as URLs).

You might still want to tell us the rest of the details of your DNS setup
and what sort of DSL service you have (that is, how you get your IP address

... it is PPPoE, for example). I can (just barely) imagine that your ISP is

doing something silly to discourage its captives (pardon me, its
"customers") from bypassing its DNS forwarders.

>Now this would seem to me to be a DNS problem.  But can this be with my
>internal DNS or ISP's DNS ???  Could it be either?
>
>HISTORY:  This is my home/personal network.  I have Bering/Shorewall and
it
>has been working up until yesterday.  I have not made any changes in the
>last couple of days.  I have a Win2K server (192.168.1.128) inside and it
>is the primary DNS of the internal network.  Bering box (192.168.1.254) is
>secondary DNS (DNSCache).  IE; Win2K will forward unresolved addresses to
>it (obvious!?!).
>
>Ideas please......





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