Dear Martin and others,

thank you very much for your hints. 
I think, I will try it.

regards

Thomas
PS: my leaf-box is user "leaf" at the uptime-project. With actually 306 days
uptime it has rank 208 of 11377. 


* Martin Hejl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060410 20:39]:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> > When changing my internet connection to DSL, I will get an AVM Fritz Box SL
> > from my Internet provider. It has a built-in firewall. Will it be useful to
> > run in addition also shorwall on my Leaf router?
> > 
> > What is your opinion?
> I presume you need the AVM for DSL access (if I'm not mistaken, it has a
> DSL modem built in) and possibly for other things too (like VOIP or so).
>  Despite it being a bit of overkill, there's nothing wrong with having a
> LEAF box between your Fritz box and the local net (I've done it that way
> at my mother's place, where I got a DSL Modem/Firewall/VOIP Gateway from
> the provider).
> In the end, I don't trust AVM, Linksys or D-Link (or any other company
> that makes boxes like that) to make something that's "safe". With a LEAF
> box, if somebody breaks into the router the provider gave me, they still
> have to get past the LEAF box to get to the local net. There's nothing
> wrong with several layers of security, especially when talking about DSL
> (the bandwidth is not high enough that the extra router in between might
> matter all that much. If you want to do lots of online gaming, you might
> want to keep the LEAF box out of the loop though, to avoid the extra hop).
> 
> The one thing you need to be aware of is that those AVM/D-Link/Linksys
> boxes tend to use private IPs on their internal net (which would be
> connected to the external interface of the LEAF box), so you need to
> change the Shorewall config accordingly (if I remember correctly,
> Shorewall doesn't like private addresses on what it considers to be the
> external interface).
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 


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