On 01/12/2011 15:41, Paul Sheer wrote:
The Olson time library has all historican timezone information.

You can choose a zone, a time (back to the 1800's) and deduce
the precise zone offset in minutes and seconds.

This is inclusive of wierd time zones that were based on the hour
since sunrise (or some similar wierd thing), as well as more basic
things like daylight savings that were tried one year, and revoked
the following year by that countries government.

There are 3064 rules in the Olson time library zone files and 434
time zones, as well as GPS information for each zone.

It would seem a number of maintainers do track time zone
announcements from all over the world and keep these
rules up to date. The most recent update was November 2010.

Further, people updating the zone rules usually provide references
for the rule change, citing a government announcement.

The Olson database is good for things since the 80's or 90's. Prior to that, the further that you go back in the past, the less reliable and complete the information gets. Since then the information has been updated in real time. Prior to that it was based on research for different areas and some of that data is still extant, while other data might not be.

Don't get me wrong, or take this as me saying that the maintainers of this database haven't done a herculean job of making it the best we have. The problem is that it is hard to know for sure all the details you need to for historical times the further back into the past you get.

There's even a nice disclaimer:

# This data is by no means authoritative;....
...
# I invented the abbreviations marked '*' in the following table

etc

Consulting these files show that I was wrong about the 1850's date for time zones. They were invented in 1870 and adopted on 1883-11-18 at 12:00 by all the railroads and the rest of the country followed suit.

Warner
-paul


On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 20:48 +0000, Clive D.W. Feather wrote:
Rob Seaman said:
For instance, what authority will historians or lawyers consult to learn the 
applicable timezone offsets that were in force in some location(s) during some 
epoch(s) in question?
<FX: falls about laughing>

Those of us on the timezone list can't even find out this information for
this year for many places. It's almost impossible to determine it for (say)
200 years ago for almost anywhere.

This is *nothing* to do with what the underlying time scale is. Tony has it
right: you have things completely backwards.

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