On Jan 14, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <p...@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> 
>> In message <20140114103334.gv21...@fysh.org>, Zefram writes:
>> 
>>> It's dubious to say that they meant UTC if they weren't aware of
>>> leap seconds.  As that's the defining feature of UTC [...]
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> The defining feature of UTC is the bit they put in the name:  Coordinated.
> 
> There's also the other two parts of the name, Universal Time:
> 
>       "The terms Greenwich Civil Time (G.C.T.), Weltzeit (W.Z.) and Universal 
> Time (U.T.)  indicate time computed from Greenwich mean midnight without 
> ambiguity."  (http://iau.org/static/resolutions/IAU1928_French.pdf)
> 
> UTC is subclassed from UT.  Leap seconds are necessary for that to be true. 
> Coordination is a specific characteristic, but UT is the general class.

That's one model. One could also model it as a multiple inheritance that 
derives from 'coordinate time' and 'universal time.' Leaps are necessary to 
marry the two, but it is possible to have coordinated time without it being a 
universal time. Different users have different needs and would emphasize one 
over the other.

>> To everybody else but the scientists who tickled the atomic clocks,
>> leap seconds was an academic detail of no consequence.
> 
> Technology, standards and protocols are often esoteric and ticklish in their 
> details.  That does not imply they are of no consequence to non-academics.  
> Leap seconds are a means to an end.
> 
> It is a simple fact that "day" means "synodic day" on Earth and a couple of 
> dozen other large terrestrial worlds in the solar system.  This ties UTC to 
> Greenwich mean midnight.  A timescale that omits that connection should not 
> be denoted Universal Time of any kind, coordinated or not.

Day means what the technical committees define it to mean. "day" to a layman 
may mean "when it is light out" or "one diurnal cycle." Both of these 
definitions are fuzzy. Synodic day is one way to address this fuzziness, but 
isn't the only way.

Warner
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