I likes Douglas. So did the Swindon fans, think they nicknamed him 'Cesc Douglas'.
Sent from my iPhone On 4 Nov 2011, at 13:32, "David Bromley" <da...@bromleyhouse.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > I meant the Jonathan Douglas that played most matches in the season we > reached the Championship playoffs,kept his place under Blackwell, Wise and > Grayson, and left (like Johnson and Kilkenny) because he could earn more > elsewhere. > In his first season at Swindon he was voted supporters' player of the season > and players' player of the season. But what would they know? > He then turned down a new contract at Swindon for more money at Brentford who > last time I looked were in league 1 not league 2 as you imply-you need to > keep up mate. > If we'd kept Douglas and played him at right back we would have saved money > and had a better defence in recent seasons. > > I dont know why you mention Collins but his weaknesses were obvious when he > was on loan and he should never have been made permanent. The same mistake is > being made now with Pugh. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Walker > To: David Bromley ; list leedslist > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > It's a bit of a shame that even at 2-0 down and 10 men that you have to > start thinking about protecting your goal difference. What about Boro when we > went down to 10 men and were still the better team. We just crumbled and it's > my opinion that Grayson has lost it when it comes to the defence and also in > his belief that Danny Pugh is doing a job for him. > > Johnny Douglas - you're having a laugh mate. He couldn't read a game or pass > a ball. He ran around like a headless chicken not actually contributing at > all but giving the impression he was. He came with premiership status , we > soon realised he wasn't good enough for the championship (but was an ever > present) and then subsequently not good enough for League One and now it > appears that League 2 is challenging him. He'll eventually end up where he > belongs - non-league. > > and what about Neil Collins - he was solid and doing a job for us wasn't he > ? What a joke. > > From: David Bromley <da...@bromleyhouse.freeserve.co.uk> > To: list leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 12:18 > Subject: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > >> There were some favourable comments from an old pro posted yesterday >> regarding Jonathan Douglas. Whatever his other failings I agreed with what >> was written and always thought he read the game well and saw things early. >> By contrast Kisnorbo often seems to see things late and this happened >> several times yesterday. >> >> A large number of Pugh's passes yesterday were hospital passes. >> >> I am surprised no-one has commented on the manager's tactics yesterday when >> Lees was sent off, we were 2 goals down to a team that had been outplaying >> us from the off. >> We weren't going to win so I wonder why Grayson didn't bring on O'Brian >> straight away to replace Lees and take off one of the forwards (preferably >> Keogh who didn't get a kick or header all night) and try to protect our goal >> difference. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill Shields" <phillshie...@hotmail.com> >> To: <david.nat...@btinternet.com>; <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackpool report >> >> >>> >>> >>> David, >>> >>> I usually agree with your reports but I take issue with your comment about >>> Kisnorbo looking like getting back to his best. Rachubka did indeed have a >>> mare but it really would be glossing over the cracks to attribute this >>> defeat soley down to him. For the 1st goal Connelly had lots of time and >>> lost possession. Next thing a free unchallenged shot - where was the cover >>> from the centre halves? >>> >>> The 2nd goal was a howler for the keeper and for the third I have no idea >>> what Kisnorbo was doing when Lua Lua waltzed through to have a shot without >>> anyone near him. The 4th goals was Connelly's fault for not not getting >>> tight in his reshuffled centre half role and Kisnorbo was ball watching >>> again for their 5th. >>> >>> As you say the game was over at 2:0 and I take your point about the fans >>> response at the end. The abuse and booing that Rachubka got from the Kop >>> was frankly a disgrace. Yes he had a mare and I doubt we will see him again >>> but I don't expect to hear Leeds "fans" treat one of their own in that way. >>> >>> Last night's result falls squarely with one person, the manager. He took >>> two major gambles in close season. Resigning Kisnorbo and taking on this >>> keeper. Coventry was bad but he should have been dropped after Posh away >>> because he cost us both goals. Kisnorbo has gone, end of conversation. >>> >>> Howson has become invisible since talk of extending his contract began and >>> Clayton was totally ineffective last night. Not one player would get above >>> 5 for last night's performance and I was surprised we did not start last >>> night with the 11 that finished the games against cardiff. Pugh is useless. >>> >>> We need a keeper for Sunday because after the 1st goal last night we lost >>> the plot. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Phill >>> >>> MOT >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:50:43 +0000 >>>> From: david.nat...@btinternet.com >>>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>> Subject: [LU] Blackpool report >>>> >>>> It can really be summed up in one word - Rachubka ! We had a serious talk >>>> on the way back with a few long time Leeds fans and we decided that it was >>>> indeed the worst performance by a keeper in our lifetime. The only ones >>>> that come close were Lukic v Arsenal (another 0 5 defeat) and Day v >>>> Barnsley when we lost in our promotion season (cannot remember exaclty >>>> what he did I just recall him being booed when he took goal kicks at the >>>> end)After a slow start there came 2 incidents which decided the game - >>>> their keeper spilled the ball and it fell to Kisnorbo who failed to score. >>>> Soon after a regulation shot was parried by Rachubka and fell to Lua Lua >>>> who tapped it home. What little confidence Rach had in himsef or the fans >>>> had in him evaporated at that point.- this was illustrated soon after when >>>> Rach spilled a simple gather and catch , it again fell to a striker whose >>>> shot hit Lees - at the time I though Lees was unlucky, but watching it >>>> again he deliberatley >>>> handled it and stopped a certain goal , so straight red it was. Rach >>>> failed to save the pen but it was taken before Lees had left the pitch and >>>> so had to be re-taken. A chance for Rach to redeem himself - if it was he >>>> did not take it and the re taken kick again ended in the net. Game over. >>>> We were all over the place after that and Blackpools slick passing game >>>> tore us apart as we chased shadows for the rest of the half. Things got >>>> even worse for Rachubka when he spilled yet another shot and again it fell >>>> to the feet of the striker who tapped it home. Half time came and a number >>>> of fans left. We wondered whether SG would subject Rach to another 45 mins >>>> of hell or bring on the kid. He chose to give Cairns a go and we saw the >>>> last of Rachubka for the night and probably for ever. A decent enough >>>> keeper but whose confidence was shot after his schoolboy error v Coventry >>>> - playing for Leeds just too much for him ?Second half we really went for >>>> a bit and did >>>> play with some pride and gave it a real go but it was never going to >>>> happen. Then with 15 or so minutes left a goal against the run of play as >>>> Lua Lua lashed it past Cairns to make it 4 and a few minutes after they >>>> cut through our tiring defence and it was 5. Cue anoither mass exodus of >>>> fans. However those who did stay then did the team and themselves proud >>>> with a rousing waccoe and other songs, totally drowning out the Blackpool >>>> fans who looked on in stunned silence. >>>> If only we could get behind the team that well at the start of the game.It >>>> is hard to look beyond Rachubka and his performance but on the down side >>>> it was another blank for McCormack and I thought Keogh had his worse game >>>> for us. On the up side Kisnorbo looked like he was getting back to >>>> something like his old self and I thought Becchio looked lively when he >>>> came on - he won a few headers and linked play well.A very bad day at the >>>> office and only time will tell whether there will be any long term >>>> consequences. I expect SG will get another keeper on loan ( a lad on the >>>> bus said he had heard Lonergan himself say he was 4 weeks away from a >>>> return) We cannot start with Cairns and I really cannot see how Rachubka >>>> can play for us again - a player who looked decent enough in pre season >>>> but who fell apart when it counted >>>> Dave >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
