Be interesting to see the P&L account of the conference centre side to the business hey? Frankly though, I couldn't really give a fuck - I support the football team, not dodgy business man Ken Bates and his ill thought out entertainment plans. Has he ever made a success in property? Genuine question.
I think the guy stinks and his business practices stink and how folk like that are allowed control of something as socially and economically important to the city as its football club is beyond me. Equally beyond me is how he has the nerve to moan about how we spend our money and the government spends our taxes whilst he himself is in Monaco, specifically for the purposes of tax avoidance. The man is a grade A tw*t of the highest order. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jan 2012, at 11:00, "Mark Humphries" <mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Actually I don’t think when people book a conference centre 6 months in the > future, they do so based on whether they think the football team got > promoted, or won a few games. > > Funnily enough, business decisions are normally not made along such lines. > Not where I come from anyway. > > As for trusting the manager, yes I do. Do I think that if he had an extra > £7m we would have a better chance of promotion, then yes I do. Do I think we > "would" get promotion, no I don’t. I would HOPE so, but as I said, even > spending £7m means we would have to over-achieve as a team to beat all the > other teams with more money. I also believe we are almost as likely to do > that within the current budget, and that splashing out on large contracts > will either unleash that Ridsdale-like wages snowball if the gamble doesn’t > pay off, would start attracting players only interested in the wages, and > would very quickly lead to unrest in the dressing room. > > But in terms of Howson, it is all moot. I happen to think he would not sign > the contract even if we were paying him the wages Norwich might offer - he > wants to play in the premier league, and the only contract he would sign at > Leeds is one that released him in the summer if we didn’t get promoted. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] > Sent: 19 January 2012 10:48 > To: Mark Humphries > Cc: Lee Jones; Leeds List > Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 19, Issue 50 > > Do you trust the manager? I do. If he spent the cash (even on retaining the > players we are letting walk for jack all) we would have won promotion, on > balance, yes. The teams you refer to with sugar daddies who did not achieve > success all had shit managers. > > As for guaranteed income - balderdash. If there is no team worth watching > the exec boxes just become a shit restaurant in beeston with a shit view. > Unless you want to pack it to the rafters with scum fans coming to laugh at > how shit we are. See, its a football club. For the most part, it's business > success is directly linked to its sporting success. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Jan 2012, at 10:41, "Mark Humphries" <mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Oh wow. "Would" have achieved promotion! >> >> So you do actually subscribe to the view that you can effectively buy >> success? >> >> Even ignoring sugar daddies (of which there are a few now in the >> championship), every season 3 clubs come into the championship with money >> which eclipses �7m, and even assuming each season the 3 relegated PL teams >> go back up (so we don�t have extra teams in the championship with their >> subsequent year parachute payments sloshing about) that would mean, if money >> = success, and ignoring sugar daddies, we could only hope to be the 4th best >> team in the league. >> >> Parachute payments are currently �48m over 4 seasons. So �12m per year. So >> every team that has been in the premier league in the previous 4 years, who >> haven�t been promoted back to the PL, have �12m before thinking about their >> other income. >> >> So, by your standards, even if we spent �7m, we should still expect to >> finish below all teams in the championship who were in the PL in the last 4 >> years. >> >> So, by your standards, there is no way, even in Ridsdale-land, that we >> "would" have achieved promotion if we had spent that �7m on Bradley Johnson, >> Neil Kilkenny and Jonny Howsons wages. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On >> Behalf Of Ian Murray >> Sent: 19 January 2012 10:27 >> To: Lee Jones >> Cc: Leeds List >> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 19, Issue 50 >> >> 7 million pounds that, spent effectively on the team, would have achieved >> promotion to the PL and all it's associated tv cash. >> >> Why people fall for Bates' bullshit is totally beyond me. Open your eyes. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
