Eric / Ian I concede to your point, Leeds are not just another product, to us and the thousands of fans across the globe, they are as much a part of our lives as our families. We want the best for them and continue to love them even when they let us down. I suspect, like me, if you won 100 million on the European lottery, you'd seriously consider throwing 40 of it at Bates to get him to fuck off, and invite all the listers to the games free of charge... I just don't understand what LUST'S aims are, do they want a say in the way Leeds are run (you just have to look at this list to know you will never reach concensus on what is ultimately best for the club) or do they just want to be told in advance of all the other fans, what's going on (if so, why, what makes them so special). Maybe I am missing the point of lust or maybe I'm not and I don't agree with their standpoint and statements. One last thing.. Please don't ban us Betty, I know we haven't sworn at each other, brought each other's paternity into question or taken our discussion on, off and then back on list,just to confuse. But I'm happy to say I'm a know nowt miserable cnut, if that helps. MOT -------- Original Message -------- From: Eric B Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 08:01 AM To: wayne callaghan CC: errand.fivef...@talk21.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: L.U.S.T. Update - Takeover, Players and the New Season wayne, I did take your point onboard, it was a good one. I just wanted to add more to it. I did read the Clash book and what was clear in it was that the band was famous for taking care of their fans. to the point they picked them up and gave them a lift to gigs if the weather was bad etc. The other point I made is the LUFC is not just another product, its more than that. If it was just a burger I wouldnt have cared so much about it. I can make my own burgers. However I cant make a burger thats a piece of english football history, yorkshire history, part of the local identity etc. Those factors are powerful in a product. this is why LUFC have followings abroad etc. Even now, after a decade of mess. Eric
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:14 PM, wayne callaghan <[1]ws.callag...@live.co.uk> wrote: I was a big fan of the Clash, I own all their stuff onA Vinyl, CD and now mp3. But even though I was a big fan and I didn't want them to split up and make me miserable, the fuckers did just that.A Football is just another product, you buy into it at different levels, you buy a ticket or a shirt or a programme or you get a credit card with the clubs name on, whatever, none of it carries the implied right to be told/consulted on its inner workings.whether you think thats right or wrong is your opinion, personally if I owned the club, I'd be inclined to tell lust to fuck off (no offence to you or your opinion). Wayne __________________________________________________________________ From: [2]barl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:07:41 +0100 Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: L.U.S.T. Update - Takeover, Players and the New Season To: [3]ws.callag...@live.co.uk CC: [4]errand.fivef...@talk21.com; [5]leedslist@gn.apc.org OR, "As a lifelong fan of a club that is part of my culture, heritage and identity I d like to try and influence and know more about what is going on please. Just because I care. As a matter of fact we are thousands that care and spend our money keeping the club afloat whilst its failing to deliver on many levels. Thus we d like to ask for a little bit of feedback. Is that too much to ask for?" If you want to know more about how this applies in the rock n roll scene, read up about The Clash mate. Cheers, Eric References 1. mailto:ws.callag...@live.co.uk 2. mailto:barl...@gmail.com 3. mailto:ws.callag...@live.co.uk 4. mailto:errand.fivef...@talk21.com 5. mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate