Matt, I think you're spot on about Jones. I think he has been waiting for something like this to vent his anger against us.
Sent from my iPhone On 20 Oct 2012, at 10:00, Matt Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Might be a non event in a pub but depends if someone presses charges or not > or if its a fight. > > If I'm in a bar in the city centre and someone does that to me it's caught on > CCTV etc... He is getting arrested. > > This was a bloke on a football pitch. His reaction is totally irrelevant. He > can role around and do what he wants. He hasn't got a awe to answer because > he was attacked from someone coming from behind him. > > Was annoying that jones seemed more upset about his own abuse than this > incident. He must get it every week > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Oct 2012, at 08:20, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> I'm no legal expert but in my experience when it comes to sentences being >> handed out for offences connected to football the courts look in the book >> and then just add 150%. And then another 10% cos it's Leeds. >> >> If you had handed off someone outside a pub it would have been a none event, >> because the idiot did it in a football ground on Sky tv he's now the uk's >> enemy no 1. Kirkland made a meal of it in my opinion. It was a hand off not >> even a punch. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 20 Oct 2012, at 07:51, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Morning Mark, >>> >>> Whilst this guy is obviously a massive knobhead there is only so much that >>> the Court can do to sanction him. >>> As the theory goes, as he is already serving an ancillary banning order and >>> as he is now technically in breach of this he runs the risk of a max 26 >>> weeks custody for the breach. Any custodial sentence imposed for the breach >>> puts a new 10 year order in place. The football banning order has a maximum >>> length of 10 years, the offender can apply for the order to be rescinded >>> after serving 2/3 of the ban. I have not known of a ban being made for more >>> than 10 years as I don't think the statutory instrument allows for >>> extension beyond the maximum. Individual football clubs can impose life >>> bans for supporters attending grounds but I don't know how successful this >>> is or can be. >>> >>> As for the assault on Kirkland, this is my personal opinion at this point >>> in time, this may change when charges are laid but I think it will be a >>> Common Assault (section 39, CJA1988), rather than ABH, GBH, etc. as it was >>> at the lower end of the scale, ie, single push no weapons headbutt etc. >>> My guess is that this would be in the region of a Category 2 type assault >>> (scale is 1 to 3, with 1 being the most serious) this brings a sentence >>> into the range of fine to community order, even with others factors >>> included and experience of other assault cases i dont see this as being >>> serious enough for custody. >>> >>> Entering the field of play is a fine only. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:44, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Twat's a serial offender though - already on a banning order. Courts will >>>> make an example of him surely, and he'll also get a life ban. Something's >>>> wrong if he doesn't. >>>> Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Chris Briggs <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:37:37 >>>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Richard Walker<[email protected]>; >>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>; Nicholas >>>> Armit<[email protected]>; <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>>> >>>> There are a couple of obvious offences in this; >>>> Firstly, entering the field of play. This is normally dealt with by way of >>>> a fine. >>>> Secondly, the assault on Kirkland, this is possibly a Common Assault (the >>>> CPS could say different), this can bring a maximum sentence of up to 26 >>>> weeks . >>>> >>>> If the offender gets custody an ancillary banning order from attending >>>> football matches, travelling on the railways on matchdays is put in place >>>> for 10 years. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:13, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> It does seem to be drilled in to all footballers to hit the deck if >>>>> punched/slapped. If someone did that to you in the street I doubt you'd >>>>> fall down. Not excusing it though. That twat needs 12 months in jail, and >>>>> informing that he'll never see another football match till the day he dies >>>>> Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]> >>>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:05:40 >>>>> To: Nicholas Armit<[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: <[email protected]><[email protected]>; >>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>>>> >>>>> Yep. >>>>> >>>>> It's like the world has ended cos of one idiot. >>>>> >>>>> I quite liked WRnock's comment - their keeper went down like a sack of >>>>> spuds. >>>>> >>>>> It wasn't even a punch. He'd never make a rugby player. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 22:02, Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Watching in a pub with fellow lister Alan in Michigan. We are both >>>>>> outraged by how shite we are. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wasn't Jones the molester from 10 years ago? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Ian Murray <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>; >>>>>> "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:00 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Poor >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole interview was about his hatred of Leeds fans. He went further >>>>>> , he had a go at Warnock for waving to the Leeds fans at the end. >>>>>> >>>>>> The interviewer said ' so you're judging all Leeds fans by one idiot' >>>>>> >>>>>> To which Jones said 'Yes' >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:56, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did he actually say that? What a twat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:56, "Richard Walker" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave jones - wanker. We're all vile, animals and should all be banned >>>>>>>> from every ground in the country. From the ex- manager of Cardiff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2012, at 21:48, Mark Tuffey <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Got to say I thought that was a terrible performance and as for >>>>>>>>>> Becchio that was the worse performance of a Leeds career full of >>>>>>>>>> diabolically poor performances. He is just not good enough to take >>>>>>>>>> us forward and I find it so frustrating to watch his efforts. 1 goal >>>>>>>>>> in 8 from open play. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Wiscoleeds >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
