IF ONLY... The game in May 72 v Wolves had been played two days later. We would 
have won the double, and Clough would not have won the league with Derby. Would 
have changed a lot of things. 

Clough's skill was moulding teams out of unknown players. He patently could not 
handle established star players, as was proven in those 44 fatal days. 

He'd have been equally useless as England manager.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heath <rhe...@asd.edu.qa>
Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:19:09 
To: Robert Woodmansey<rob.woodman...@me.com>
Cc: <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; RM Goodair<r.good...@bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [LU] Clough

I am sure that one of the two great IF ONLIES about LUFC is NOT if only
Clough had stayed, but is if only Giles had been given the job.

(The other one is of course if only Lorimer's goal in Paris had not been
disallowed.)

On 25 February 2013 13:46, Robert Woodmansey <rob.woodman...@me.com> wrote:

> Rog
>
> I think Taylor was the "politician" that people warmed to, so that may
> well have been the case.
> But just admit it, the bloke had talent for finding quality and bringing
> them on
>
> he got Roy Keane to NF from some mickey mouse Irish team for the price of
> a cup of team and  biscuits.
> …Roy McFarland from…(Bradford ? ) and turned him into an international at
> Derby
> John McGovern, I think he was at Hartlepool with him
> Colin Todd chose cloughie instead of the Don ….remember that one ?
>
> He made Des Walker, Steve Hodge, Lee Glover….and Im sure ~I could come up
> with a long list given time….
>
> Admit it Rog, he was a loss. He was the right man , Bremner , Giles and co
> just could not stand him.
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Feb 2013, at 10:19, RM Goodair wrote:
>
> > Right man at the wrong time Rob – he should never have followed the Don.
> >
> > He took over the best team in England and turned us in to relegation
> material within 44 days.  If Taylor had come with him I believe the outcome
> would have been very very different.
> >
> > Rog
> >
> > Roger M Goodair
> > Head of IT Support and Telecoms
> > University of Bradford
> > Richmond Road
> > BRADFORD
> > BD7 1DP
> >
> > Tel:  01274 235332
> > Email:  r.good...@bradford.ac.uk
> >
> > From: Robert Woodmansey [mailto:rob.woodman...@me.com]
> > Sent: 25 February 2013 10:12
> > To: r.good...@bradford.ac.uk
> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > Subject: [LU] Duncan McKenzie
> >
> > I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the
> top one.
> >
> > You can't take it away from Cloughie, he was a one off and it has to be
> the major regret of anyones life
> > that he won consecutive European cups with NF rather than Leeds.
> >
> > I know the dressing room wanted Giles. But admit it Rog, what "should
> have been" still wrankles.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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