I see your point, but you are comparing a current day 2nd tier English club
with the World Champions. Well done to Spain and Barcelona for their
respective triumphs, but
they have created a bland rigid style with no option to change and
presumably no intention of ever trying to. (Whilst Pat Nevin's observations
were interesting, it doesn't change the fact that it's boring.)
This was clearly shown when they were losing 3-0 to Brazil the other night
and a change of tempo / style was needed and they weren't able to. A lot of
managers say that they concentrate on what their own team does and not worry
so much about the oppo.
I believe this idea to have faults. It's the team that can adapt best to
what the opposition is doing that bosses the game. Spain could not adapt to
what Brazil were throwing at them
and just continued as they were and went on to concede more goals.
I don't consider myself audacious one bit, but the Spanish way which has
worked for them for so long is being replaced by a multi paced / styled
system as shown by the likes of Brazil and Bayern.
And the big point - it's great to watch!
One or two players with 10% of the likes of Iniesta's quality would be
dragged down by the other donkeys in the team. Think big, we need a bunch of
them. I wouldn't sell my soul
though to finance or achieve this.
Dave
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From: "Chris Briggs" <c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk>
To: <m...@myray.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil
How any of us has the audacity to deride the style of play that has brought
success to Barcelona / Spain, etc is laughable whilst we pay to watch woeful
professionals struggle to string together a handful of passes.
Whilst at times it can appear boring, how many of us have complained about a
players inability to play an incisive pass or merely keep procession, as
Rich W would say these are the basics and something that our former 'best'
(according to records) player so clearly lacked.
I would willingly sell my soul to the devil to be able to see a player that
possesses 10% of Iniesta's ability and vision don a Leeds shirt, anyone who
thinks otherwise is more than welcome to wallow in mediocrity.
On 2 Jul 2013, at 08:32, "Dr Michael Benjamin" <m...@myray.com> wrote:
You are right
The Barca era is slipping away
It will just slowly fade.
The Gemanic style is like Leeds's of the '70's
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On 2 July 2013 10:17, Sutton / Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
One man's poison is another man's medicine. I wouldn't mind the endless
passing game if it was tempered and balanced with other styles but from
start to finish Spain just bang on and on with
the same game. I rarely get further than the 10 minute mark watching
them.
All very cleaver sucking in the oppo etc, but dull to watch. It has made
them World Champions so I'll give them that.
Bayern for example are the contrast. They mix up so many different styles
and paces, they are great to watch. They can play the Spanish passing
style
for a bit, then the long ball for a bit etc etc. It's always changing
with
them. Let's not start on 1975 again please, that's all been said.
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Murray" <
ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>
To: "Sutton / Smail" <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
Cc: "Leeds List (Post to list)" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; "Rob Gillard" <
rgill...@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil
Really? So how should football be played.
Yeah Barca and Spain don't have a 'plan B' but their 'plan A' is football
played well and is great to watch imho. Beats the long ball
play-it-up-to-the-big-man crap we have been dishing out for so long.
Sent from my iPhone
On 01/07/2013, at 20:05, "Sutton / Smail" <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
I take great heart in seeing Spain (and Barcelona) lose. I have nothing
against the country or club, but they do play the same endless boring
boring passing game. I think opponents simply get bored
or mesmerised playing them and fall into a trance. Maybe that's part of
their plan? Brazil are much more of an exciting team to watch with so
many
different styles and pace changes to their game - not unlike Bayern.
However, Pat Nevin did a very eye opening piece on the Spanish passing
style which is well worth a look for those that haven't seen it.
Very admirable perhaps, even so, still boring. I noticed even at 3-0
down
the Spanish had no plan B, Plan A obviously wasn't working against
Brazil.
This was not a good example of Pat Nevin's observations as they were
under
heavy pressure last night which
they aren't so used to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/**football/23024166<http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23024166>
Dave
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