Same here Andy - i’m rooting for Liverpool (and for Everton to finish above the Arse)…admittedly part of my support is based on the fact that my other half and her dad are keen reds (he’s a born and bred scouser…)…but yes, the tone of your email has it spot on for me, there’s one thing having sporting rivalries/hatreds (and all teams have some shite-arse little bastards that attach themselves - FFS are we saying Leeds fans are angels here?) but then there’s real lives and deaths; and if you can’t see that one matters way more than the other then you have a problem…
Hillsborough, the injustice etc doesn’t mean they have the "right to win the league”, no one does, you generally hope that the team playing the best football wins it, unless it is ManU of course…I find Liverpool much less offensive that Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, Spurs…I don’t much mind between them and City The real scandal of Hillsborough is not that some fans may or may not have got in without tickets…it is that the police panicked, lied and covered up…and did so by pinning the blame on the ordinary folk…and that establishment (both government and press) bought it and played it for all it was worth, refusing to accept any other history. This made criminals out of people who went to a football match. That is an inexcusable fabrication which shows the contempt that people in power have for the “ordinary person"…just makes you wonder about all the other times we’re lied to and how often we accept that version. Keep it up Andy On 20 Apr 2014, at 00:33, Andy Pyzer <andypy...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Regardless of opinions and we all have them, for me Liverpool have been the > best team this year and deserve to win the League as the best footballing > team and I hope they do and I hope Everton get into top 4 too. > > When I moved to Liverpool in 1971 at age 5 from Scotland and chose an English > team it was obviously Leeds because we were the best and had some Scottish > players obviously and my mate Kevin supported them.... and Liverpool were not > destined to be huge for 20 years were they? I stayed Leeds loyal all these > years because I am a stubborn twat.. a similar trait with several here > although you may have been born in Leeds so have no choice... I have lived in > the Middle East for the last 22 years... FYI. > > There was a recent BBC thread on Leeds on what happened from an author who > pointed out that all Leeds fans do is moan, why us, why this why that etc. > What has happened to Leeds United? Part of my joy of this list is the eternal > pessimism whether we win lose or draw, it somehow makes my life better to > know the pain we all go through week in week out. but we get through it. > > It is an obvious difficult issue when people are killed at any ground for any > team or any fan and yes I agree I have many scouser friends who are now > constantly giving me the Hillsborough 96 blah blah, but the fact is it > happened and no matter how you want to paint it people died right or wrong. > Turkey scum, Arsenal scum, Liverpool scum... seriously guys? seriously? > people died. > > I thought we were football fans? Anfield is one of the only grounds I have > ever gone to where the fans stand up and actually applaud a team who beat > them, they are fans like us who recognise skills and ability and talent and > support their team winning or losing. Fuck me we won the league since they > last did.... > > I lost a mate at Hillsborough, a school friend who in fairness I had not seen > for many years but nevertheless he is gone. we all have a laugh here but > sometimes just sometimes maybe we should think about our comments and that > includes me. > > Leeds has had a tough time, my mate Rick took over Radio Yorkshire in > November and asked me to run the sports section for footy and rugby league, > he meets and met Ken Bates on many occasions and I was in Leeds less than two > months ago, fuck me I have some stories but it would compromise him and he is > my mate, maybe one time I will tell you some stories.. not now. By the way I > couldn't do it but didn't post it here whilst I was in negotiations..... I > wish them well regardless of your comments that may follow here. > > Not sure how this missive will be received.. maybe time to retire. I'm not > asking for any sensitive oh poor you shit comments here but maybe a little > humility from some of the generic crass comments that normally come from some > of the regulars... x > > MOT and I mean together, Andy > > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
