We never do well in January and February. Almost invariably the wheels come off 
(or stay off) before a reasonable finish. Whether that will be enough this year 
I don’t know

Monk season excepted. An awful finish

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> On 28 Feb 2019, at 11:14, Paul Cundell <p...@cundell.com> wrote:
> 
> Reality Check:
> On the February 18th 1974 we lost 1-0 at home to Bristol City in the FA Cup
> replay.
> This began a run of 11 games where we only won twice.
> Obviously that manager and that team weren't the finished article either -
> good job that manager left that summer eh?
> ;-)
> Cheers
> Paul
> 
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 10:43, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> Quite a long list, but that was only part of your homework, list other
>> managers who have done more.  To help u I'll let u include those who've won
>> in Scotland, which obvs shouldn't really count.
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:33:52 AM
>> To: Richard Naef
>> Cc: Paul Reeve; Leeds List
>> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>> 
>> It kind of depresses me when reality is ignored
>> 
>> 
>> Argentina
>> 
>>  *   Summer Olympics Tournament<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_Summer_Olympics> Gold
>> Medal: 2004<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2004_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament
>>> [11]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-oly04-12>
>>  *   Copa América<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Am%C3%A9rica>
>> Runner-up: 2004<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica
>>> [9]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-cam04-10>
>> 
>> Newell's Old Boys
>> 
>>  *   Primera División Argentina<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1991
>> Apertura<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990%E2%80%9391_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura>,
>> 1992 Clausura<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991%E2%80%9392_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Apertura
>>> [4]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-nobfifa-5>
>>  *   Copa Libertadores<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores>:
>> Runner-up 1992<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Copa_Libertadores>[4]<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-nobfifa-5>
>> 
>> Vélez Sarsfield
>> 
>>  *   Primera División Argentina<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n_Argentina>: 1998
>> Clausura<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Torneo_Clausura
>>> [6]<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-velez-7>
>> 
>> Athletic Bilbao
>> 
>>  *   UEFA Europa League<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League>: Runner-up 2011–12<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_UEFA_Europa_League>[28]<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-uel12-29>
>>  *   Copa del Rey<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_del_Rey>:
>> Runner-up 2011–12<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Copa_del_Rey>[30]<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-cdr12-31>
>> 
>> Individual
>> 
>>  *   IFFHS World's Best National Coach<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS_World%27s_Best_National_Coach>:
>> 2001[92]<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-Former_Results-93
>>> 
>>  *   EFL Championship Manager of the Month<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Championship_Manager_of_the_Month>:
>> August 2018[51]<
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa#cite_note-yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk-52
>>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 10:03, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
>> <mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> It kind of depresses me Leeds fans jumping in the press' lack of success
>> trope.  He's won things, taken teams to the top and managed international
>> sides.
>> 
>> Just think who managing in England has done more? Write a list, it's very
>> short.
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:
>> leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> on behalf of John Lee via Leedslist <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:27:21 AM
>> To: Paul Reeve
>> Cc: Leeds List
>> Subject: Re: [LU] On the other hand.
>> 
>> Ok, start point - Love Leeds, Want promotion, peace and love etc, but a
>> few thoughts.
>> 
>> MB clearly isn’t the finished article as a manager, otherwise he would
>> have a string of titles, cups etc in his cv. He is a master tactician,
>> leaves no stone unturned etc, and has utterly transformed a set of in the
>> main average players into a cohesive force. In itself that is astonishing,
>> and what he has created at Leeds is equally amazing. But the fact remains
>> that his record on delivering success isn’t that hot. That is why all us
>> armchair managers, as well as tv pundits/experts etc, highlight the need
>> for better quality and more players. I got sick to death of pundits saying
>> we couldn’t last the season playing this style of footie, but am worried
>> they may be right. Nothing I say will change anything, but I hope MB will
>> stay another year, whether we’re in the Prem/Championship, and from
>> somewhere comes an investor who has enough money to do the job properly.
>> 
>> I thought the QPR game was a must win game, but not necessarily - however,
>> anything other than 3 points against West Brom would not be good. In a
>> division where anyone can beat anyone, I hope Norwich/Sheff Utd come a
>> cropper, but we’re now in the must-win camp to take advantage.
>> 
>> Finally, if we do go up, do you think MB will stay loyal to this group of
>> players? Now that’s something to chew on :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 27 Feb 2019, at 21:09, Paul Reeve via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Couldn’t agree more with you Nick, everyone in the ground is a manager,
>> that along with everyone in the pub and them in their own front room, never
>> gonna change that.
>>> We are all fans that care about the club and deep down want to put it
>> right, reality is that we have one of the best managers in the world and
>> bottom line is he knows better than us. Everyone has got valid points, I’m
>> aware of that, but this season has been mostly a joy to be a Leeds fan, on
>> and off the field,  I just hope that MB and Radz will stay on and see the
>> job through.
>>> Always ups and and downs!
>>> 
>>> Keep the faith
>>> MOT
>>> 
>>> 
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