Another snowflake (whatever that means) writes: Yeah, and the fact that that kid with a horrible haircut outpaced Phillips on that break is actually a point in his favour...........he was shown there to be not exactly turbospeed, but the very fact that he is so rarely caught out in situations like that is a tribute to his positioning and anticipation.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:11 PM Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote: > I think it’s a fair point. You’d think that Forshaw’s passing stats would > look quite good because all he ever does is pass slowly sideways and > backwards. Sometimes he even manages to mess that up though. I imagine if > Kalvin is attempting risky long range passes it’s because Bielsa has told > him to. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 14 Aug 2019, at 15:55, Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote: > > > > that 60 yarder for Bamford to spoon just wide on Saturday was Hoddlesque > (without the god bothering) > > > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >> From: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. > >> Date: 14 August 2019 at 15:39:30 BST > >> To: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com>, Richard Walker < > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>, "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" < > leedslist@gn.apc.org> > >> > >> If you don't try difficult things and occasionally fail (16%) then > what's the point. Perhaps some of the 16% did cause problems but that's > what the other 10 players are for and Bielsa isn't going to criticise him > for that. > >> > >> I think Dave made the point that comparing Batty to Macca was pointless > as there attempts at passing were of completely different types. KP is a > defensive midfielder, very little gets through BUT he also sets up counter > attacks and plays defence splitting passes. If you think he's average your > are entitled to your opinion, but I just think that's plain wrong and not > born out by the facts of last season or the beginning of this, maybe you > need to amend your expectations of a top championship DM? Who are you > comparing him with? > >> > >> Sent from my Mobile. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:07:22 PM > >> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; leeds list ( > leedslist@gn.apc.org) <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. > >> > >> I recommend you watch again Richard and actually look for the passes he > gave away. They were problematic. > >> > >> Phillips has come on leaps and bounds but he does have issues. > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 09:56:57 AM EDT, Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > >> LOL. 15 long passes, 84 Medium and Short. > >> > >> Sent from my Mobile. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:47:35 PM > >> To: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; leeds list ( > leedslist@gn.apc.org) <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. > >> > >> Most of the game Phillips sat in midfield with noone anywhere near him. > During the game I told the boy I could sit there and do that too and give > the ball away less (some hyperbole there of course). With Rich a bit here, > stats do not tell everything. 100 short passes looks great and is not > necessarily a bad thing but when 4/5 through balls go straight to the other > side and sets up their attack there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 05:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> > >> I’m definitely a snowflake and I hug trees and don’t wash regularly, > but when deciding on things I prefer facts to opinions, which of course you > are entitled to have and express on an open forum. Of course you don’t > like facts and stats that contradict your opinions, who does, but just > ignoring them and accusing others of getting upset is a bit rich (pun > intended). If you think 16% is “frequent” in the context of a fast flowing > match against committed (albeit limited) opponents, can you give us an > example of the stats you would expect from an ABOVE average player, one > that would reduce the pain you say you feel from watching one of our most > improved and committed players? C’mon Rich, we all know your schtick on > here & Twitter is to be angry and contrarian to wind people up, but you’re > amongst friends here, just once, just for us, crack and smile and gives us > a WHOOP – promise we won’t tell anyone. > >> > >> From: Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto: > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>> > >> Sent: 14 August 2019 10:37 > >> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>) < > leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>; Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats. > >> > >> stats are stats and looking at those they mean nothing. For instance > they don't include his shot that went over the stand in the first half. > >> > >> I'd prefer to go with what I saw and overall I thought Philips did ok > with a definite improvement in the second half with one or two really good > passes. > >> > >> First half though, he was dreadful. His passing was all over the place, > frequently giving the ball away (that must have been the 16% inaccurate > passes). The most worrying thing is when he got done for pace by Towell and > you could see he just didn't have the acceleration to recover. > >> > >> I like Philips, he's a local lad and he's doing ok at this moment in > time but let's have a reality check. Some fans are saying he could be > England captain whereas I think he's a good championship player and would > struggle in the PL. > >> > >> It makes me laugh when fans get all upset when you point out a player's > faults in a match and get all abusive and start crying particular on > Twitter however there are 1 or 2 snowflakes on here. Come on, grow up FFS. > >> > >> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019, 09:01:10 BST, Richard Naef < > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk > ><mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto: > rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Kalvin Phillips vs. Salford City: > >> > >> 128 touches (most) 🌟 > >> 99 successful passes (most) 🌟 > >> 84% pass accuracy > >> 15 successful long passes > >> 5 ball recoveries > >> 2 chances created > >> 2 accurate crosses > >> 2 shots on-target > >> > >> Defensive midfielder. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto: > leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org><mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > <mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>> > >> > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto: > leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
