They have the goal line technology for the Lampard scenario (not VAR). That was all that was required. The rest has become a hot mess. Nick On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 01:51:27 PM EST, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote: I’m not a fan of VAR. I always thought it a sledgehammer to crack a nut. English commentariat got itself all excited after Lampard’s ‘goal’ against Germany and demanded ‘something be done’. But across a season decisions evened out, pre-VAR...now we’ve actually legislated ‘in’ interference.
They’re having to create a raft of secondary rules about when it is used and when not. A system that doesn’t penalise Everton’s keeper for that wild foul, but disallows Bamford’s goal is not fit for purpose. Sent from my iPad > On 10 Nov 2020, at 18:42, Ed Morrish <edmorr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I feel like the footballing authorities have missed out on a crucial element > of how video reviews work in cricket: umpire’s call. In cricket, you have to > be 100% the umpire got it wrong, not 1% sure they weren’t right. If Bamford’s > goal had been disallowed by the ref, the video would have upheld that; if it > had been allowed, it would also have been upheld - it’s clearly a grey area, > so let the ref do his job. > > (I also think there should be one review per team per half, which you lose if > you challenge incorrectly.) > > Ed. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 10 Nov 2020, at 17:46, Guy Thornton <guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net> wrote: >> >> Oh mighty King of Tonga, I agree with you and I did say I didn't blame the >> ref who was 'only following >> orders'. >> Okay, he was following the latest interpretation of those who must be obeyed >> on on deciding what is >> and what is not offside with VAR. Whether it was Lineker and friends who >> helped get the new >> interpretation I don't know but something needs to be done to sort this out. >> I'm not against VAR, a >> contaire, but there's been some mighty silly decisions made. Forget who it >> was but I remember a >> player with his back to the one kicking the ball, arm by his side but the >> ball hit it and wham, a foul. >> On offside what happened to being in an offside potion but not interfering >> with play? >> guy >> >> >> >> On 10 Nov 2020 at 17:06, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) wrote: >> >> I'm actually pro VAR, but just can't believe what a pigs ear the officials >> make of applying it. Firstly they >> don't have to use the lines. They are not used in Rugby replays to >> determine forward passes. >> >> If they must use the lines then Offside is offside, whether by a foot or a >> yard (Or a few millimetres). >> The forward already gets the advantage that he can be level (if that is even >> possible anymore). >> >> The idea that a player's arm can put them offside is patently ridiculous. >> But it is not VAR's fault. >> Part of the fault is with Lineker and his chums who moaned about handballs >> being given when the ball >> hit the arm. >> >> The unintended consequence of reducing the handball to the T Shirt line as >> they call it was that a goal >> can now be scored with that part of the arm which therefore now qualifies >> for offside. Surely the arm >> should ignored for offside decisions. >> >> It will be interesting to see what happens when a player uses the INSIDE of >> the upper arm to >> deliberately control the ball, or actually knock it into the net. 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