Having resigned myself to relegation, what a strange, and very un-Leeds, 
outcome. 




> On 22 May 2022, at 10:46, "n...@6haroldplace.co.uk" <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> I know what you’re saying Dave, but I don’t agree that today will decide how 
> we remember Bielsa. It will decide whether it was ‘all for nought’. 
> 
> The first 3 years brought us both brilliant football, and a sense of pride in 
> the way it was achieved: he showed that it was still possible to do things 
> the right way on and off the field. To me there was an element of grace to it 
> - not a word often associated with Leeds.
> 
> JM doesn’t bring that and whatever the results today (and it is a 38 game 
> season) it is unfair to expect that from him. Staying up being the natural / 
> default desire of any team in our position, but without massive change it 
> will likely mean we will be in for another season like this one…without our 
> best players. Going down might give us a better season to watch as a 
> supporter.
> 
> To be honest though, what I’ll miss if we do go down is the joy not the 
> ‘status’, and that has gone either way.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 22 May 2022, at 10:20, nattan--- via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well today is D day for Bielsa and his legacy - does he go down in history 
>> as the man who got us back on track or just as a 3 season oasis in a sea of 
>> mediocrity?I will always admire and respect him and he will go down as my 
>> favourite ever manager ( 31 and counting) both for what he did on the pitch 
>> and his persona and behaviour off it ( like Chile fans I count myself as a 
>> Bielsa 'widow') . However relegation today makes his football achievements 
>> as just a footnote. 
>> There is no point debating if he would have kept us up although one of my 
>> concerns for today is the fact that Marsch only has one result that was 
>> unexpected- a victory at wolves away- and I am not sure how much credit he 
>> actually deserves for that one?Wins over Norwich and Watford are to be 
>> expected,  as are defeats v Man city, Chelsea and Arsenal,  so it is whether 
>> the draws v Southampton,  Palace and Brighton are good points or should and 
>> would have been better under Bielsa - but as I say a pointless debate. All 
>> that counts now is what happens today - if we stay up I will give Jesse the 
>> credit and hope he goes on to better things with us, and I will also thank 
>> him for protecting Bielsa's legacy , if we go down then the blame is to be 
>> spread around .
>> I want us to stay up but as my wife keeps saying " you enjoyed the 
>> championship,  you will win more, and you will be going to games whatever  
>> so it makes little difference " - all true , but fuck me, relegation will 
>> hurt 
>> Dave 
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