Agreed, Rodon must start and 3 points are a must.

Not a fan of rotating players. Points lost now are points we are chasing at the 
end of the season.

Cheers
Wiscoleeds

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From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of John Lee via 
Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 8:45 AM
To: heathpalai...@gmail.com <heathpalai...@gmail.com>; Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com>
Cc: Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Kevin Lewis 
<kevlewi...@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet after the weekend

I regret getting sucked into whatever world Michel Bonjamming inhabits - I know 
it's an exercise in pointlessness.
I may not be a psychiatrist, but this is an 'odd' contribution to a football 
list - it seems his outsider status goes much further than football? I'll say 
no more, as it's hard to know what to say?
Meanwhile, back to football, I still maintain tonight is a must win game, and 
must play well too, because the Southampton game brought back some very recent 
painful memories, and the new shoots of discontent are starting to appear! 
Rodon at the back is a must for me.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

  On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 14:34, Robert Heath<heathpalai...@gmail.com> wrote:   
Dear me.
He's obviously trying really hard to be coherent here, but I still can't follow 
half of it. I think the gist of it is that Elland Road, and indeed the City of 
Leeds, are not the same places they were 50 years ago. Startling revelation!
Still, now that he's gone we can all talk about him behind his back. He was a 
prickly, loopy contributor wasn't he? Seemed like a deeply unhappy person at 
heart, and like so many people took his anger out on his football team.
P.S. Anybody sad to hear of the death of Francis Lee? No, me neither.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:26 PM Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:


How do you explain anything to someone who forms opinions with no basis 
whatsoever?
You do not know me.
You don’t know how I work, or with whom I work.
If you have any experience with psychiatry, it could make your view subjective. 
I wonder if you have any.
How on earth my abysmal ability to remember names and terrible spelling leads 
you to racism is a stretch. Even your Brownian-movement-like logic shudders 
under that burden.

I had some introspection as I walked out, not only on the LUFC list and 
WhatsApp. I told the National Insurance & the Ministry of Health to fuck off.
What is there in common? It's not an age issue, as you may think. I decided 
that life is too short to pretend I am happy and belong when I do not.

The boards I sat on in both places are known to be institutionalised-central & 
not functioning to promote patient’s well-being.  In both cases, after a long 
process over the years, I knew that I neither identified with their aims nor 
wished to be identified with what they were doing.  I am very happy with a 
Health Provider who appreciates what I am and what I do. Along with patients’ 
gratitude, what more do I need?

The same goes for LUFC and its supporters, as represented by you. I love Leeds; 
it is a major part of who I am. With my parents’ passing and the exodus of so 
many Jews, the Leeds I knew is gone.
As I have often said, the one place I felt not merely a part of a minority but 
‘completely belonged’ was ER. That sense of belonging whilst being a minority 
is also something integral to my ‘worldview.’
Even so,  people like you make me uneasy, apart and alone again.


I do not belong with you, I am uneasy with you, the city has changed and is not 
what it was, and the team is no longer the main standard bearer of Leeds—it is 
something else. I do not know what. But whatever it is, it is not what I fell 
in love with and Marched On Together with.

That’s my answer, John & you can do what you want with it. If you wish, post it 
in my name on the list– I have left.

Keep well

-- Michael












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From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 12:40 PM
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com>; Kevin Lewis 
<kevlewi...@googlemail.com>; Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet after the weekend



Michael



It has always been a mystery to me how someone with psychiatric issues could 
see you as part of any solution? That mystery continues!

John



Ps - noted you avoided the subject of racism - convenient?






On 4 Oct 2023, at 09:56, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:





Thanks for nothing
Whoever is in charge – unsubscribe me
FYI – I am still working and very fit
As for attention seeking
I leave that to you

-- Michael






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From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 11:27 AM
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com>; Kevin Lewis 
<kevlewi...@googlemail.com>; Leeds List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet after the weekend



Jeez Michael, not another attention-seeking post? If you want to go, just go, 
you don’t need to tell everyone, as I suspect you’ll be waiting quite some time 
for a bunch of flowers and a ‘Good Luck for the Future’ card :-)



The irony of you referring to the BNP, which was much worse in the 70s, then 
not being bothered to spell the name of our new Bulgarian player correctly? I 
wonder if you rail against the racism of the country you live in?



Yes, the team is work-in-progress. From 2 awful seasons, we have been sold, 
shipped out 10/12 under-achieving high earning players, brought in a squad of 
hopefully good enough experienced players, got a manager with a proven record 
of success at this level, and are slowly climbing the league. Southampton was 
an unwelcome blip, but it’s done with now.



From your frankly lunatic rants, I’d say you do need to leave this group, 
switch of your electronic devices and go and sit in your rocking chair with a 
good book and a favourite tipple at your side!



John







On 4 Oct 2023, at 06:46, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:





Mate
I walked out of the WhatsApp group for the same sarcy rudeness.
Believe me, I am pissed off, and if I don’t belong then there is no fucking 
problem.
Just say the word & I walk—I truly don’t give a fuck anymore. Something really 
snapped on Saturday. It was a ‘WTF am I doing here?’ moment. A bunch of lazy, 
useless Jessies who won’t fight—again.
This is not the Leeds United I once knew & the supporters are not the same 
either. At ER I felt part of something; no one gobbed you off or smart-arsed at 
your expense. This was before the oafs from the BNP looked for fellow morons.
Once this was about Leeds & Leeds United – if it isn’t—then who the fucks needs 
it?
--Michael








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ISRAEL

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From: Robert Heath <heathpalai...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 8:11 AM
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk; Kevin Lewis <kevlewi...@googlemail.com>; Leeds 
List 2010 <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet after the weekend



"After Saturday I gave up. "



Really?



OK, bye then.



On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 6:59 PM Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:


It is.nt a must win because we are back to our level, as an upper mid-table 
second division team.
Aim for play offs, milk the supporters and flog off developing players who are 
here just to get somewhere else.
The twerp-like preparation for the season showed exactly what we are dealing 
with.
Why we bought this Gueyva or whatever his name is beyond me.
After Saturday I gave up. I've seen this carnival so many times.
I've been here 75 years, I still work and am not dottled. I resent being told 
out. Saturday showed just who we have and what fight there is. None.
We supporters are mugs.
This club is going nowhere. We have missed the boat and the gap to where we 
should have been is simply unbridgeable.
There are no more must wins, they are for teams and clubs with ambition and 
guts. We don't, and it's too late.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 8:00:22 PM
To: Kevin Lewis <kevlewi...@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [LU] Quiet after the weekend

Still work in progress I know, but I hope we see Rodon & Gray back in for Coops 
and Kamara. All our squad will have a role to play this season, but for now 
playing our best xi seems like a good idea?

Whilst Cooper sometimes plays well, there is undeniably a nervousness in 
Meslier when Coops is in front of him.

3 points v QPR is a must tomorrow!

> On 3 Oct 2023, at 14:29, Kevin Lewis via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
> wrote:
>
> All very quiet after the weekend performance.  I guess the team are allowed
> a game where the never really get going. Conversely Soton took every
> opportunity they got and Leeds could not really come to terms with Alcaraz?
> Playing the false 9.  Cooper in particular was dragged into all sorts of
> strange areas.
> I don't think him and Struijk work too well together and think I would
> prefer to see Rodon with one or other.
>
> Whilst Farke has done well to get anything like a decent squad/team
> together I dothink there are areas where the balance is all wrong.
>
> Having right footers at left-back and left wing seems to really limit the
> success down that side. Summerville and James when on that side only come
> back inside, as do Shackleton or Byram at Left back.  Anthony looks the
> best bet for the moment as although right footed, he is preepared to go
> both ways.  I'd pick Summerville on the right ahead of James as he has more
> Variety.
>
> It is not getting the best out of Piroe at No 10.  Him playing 2nd striker,
> means that the midfield is often outnumbered. I'd like to see him up front,
> but confess I don't know who would go in the 10 role.  Perhaps a 3 man
> midfield of Ampaudu, Kamara and Gray.
>
> Lastly I'm not sure about Rutter. He did have a blinder v Watford, but he
> looks to me like one of those players who frustrates 90% of the time, then
> does something brilliant. As when he raced round the Soton defence and then
> made a poor choice.
>
> Perhaps he would be best cutting in from the right to join the attack from
> there.
>
> Anyway, if we win the next 2 home games we will be back on track, so it
> might be better than I fear.
>
> KOT.
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