----- Original Message ----- > I am not on of the inner sanctum on here that seem to know everything > about everything hence my email enlighten me!
I'm not sure what your complaint really is here. When people ARE trying to elighten you then you appear to simply reject it (so why should they bother ?). People don't "know" things as a sort of divine right or some mystical or privileged process. It comes as a result of hard work and dedication and getting themselves involved. How are you involved ? Are you a member of the supporters Trust ? You can join up on-line very easily. www.lufctrust.org. Let me know if you have any problems. Get yourself involved and I can almost guarantee that somehow you will end up knowing more than you do now (but it won't be an accident). I also suggest that you actually READ what has been written. Did you notice the bit about Bates' promises not being delivered in full ? Why would those who willingly sold the club to Bates and who received warm paise from Bates at the time turn into "sworn enemies" as you say. Is it because they are simply bad people ? Even then, why would bad people do this ? What publicity is David Richmond getting ? Or Helme ? Are you suggesting that there were creditors to pay off that Bates did not know all about ? When did this happen ? When he took over, or after he told us all (just after Cardiff) that there were no more excuses and that nobody from the past could be blamed any longer. If "all" that Bates has done is to get in over his head then how is that any less a major fault with massive implications for our football club and how is it anbodys fault other than his own ? If you "get in over your head" on something and let everybody down in a very big way as a result, then whose fault would it be ? There was a known and understood process for the football debts to decay and erode over the period up until next month. There were no surprises there. The contingent liabilities were also known and understood. If somebody fails to manage a process which is understood, mapped out, and fully predictable then is it fair to say that their management is a failure ? There are documents available to you from Companies House, from the Land Registry, and from any of the clubs creditors. You could make phone calls to any number of people and ask questions or have discussions. You could have meetings. All of these things would lead to greater knowledge. Alternatively you might not want to bother with any of these things but that does not give whatever you wish to say about it equal weight with those people who do put in this effort. You are of course free to say whatever you wish but, like it or not, THEY will KNOW more than you about it. You can either find these things out for yourself or listen to and rely on what other people are telling you. It is your choice. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..."

