Betty a very pertinent posting I think and a subject I find fascinating, I
too have had many a conversation with my grandad and many like him
describing horrors that we can't even contemplate. Perspective is
important here!


> Whilst you all kick over the traces of yesterday's shennanigans I'd like
> you to consider the following statement by a certain General Kiggell:
>
> "Good God, did we really send men to fight in that?"
>
> It's 90 years since the Battle of Passchendaele.  I for one can remember
> as a boy the men and women I came across who had been touched by that
> battle, my grandfather fought there and won a medal.  I remember the
> villages with childless women and no men of a similar age and I remember
> the survivors' bewilderment at the dawn of the so called swinging
> sixties.  Those bemedalled old men in dark overcoats parading before the
> cenotaphs on cold November mornings and granddad always ramrod straight
> with a tear on his ruddy cheek.
>
> I find the rememberance of those poor brave souls who perished in the
> mud and sheer hell of it all far more moving than any discussion of some
> football club, which unlike so many will stumble along in the future,
> come what may.
>
> For The Fallen
>
> With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
> England mourns for her dead across the sea.
> Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
> Fallen in the cause of the free.
>
> Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
> Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
> There is music in the midst of desolation
> And a glory that shines upon our tears.
>
> They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
> Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
> They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
> They fell with their faces to the foe.
>
> They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
> Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
> At the going down of the sun and in the morning
> We will remember them.
>
> They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
> They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
> They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
> They sleep beyond England's foam.
>
> But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
> Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
> To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
> As the stars are known to the Night;
>
> As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
> Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
> As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
> To the end, to the end, they remain.
>
> Laurence Binyon (1914)
>
>
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