Just a concept - but hows about we actually see what the letter is about????


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nigel Holcroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Supporters Trust appeals for volunteers


>
> Sounds like you've already written your own letter...
>
> Afraid to sign your name to it? Need someone else to do your work for you?
> Bit like not doing the research, for yourself in the earlier arguments eh?
>
> Now I can see where you have things in common with Mr Bates..... [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> everybody over, calls them names and then expects them to bend over
> backwards to help him out of the hole he dug for himself....
>
> Unbelievable the lot of you... May you both get what you truly deserve...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 3:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LU] Supporters Trust appeals for volunteers
>
> Secret squirrel's back to his tricks again!
>
> I don't know what the trust is planning - and I don't think the cloak &
> dagger approach is particularly helpful - but I HOPE it's an attempt to 
> put
> some
> pressure on the FL about the 15-point deduction.
>
> It appears there is a great deal of sympathy out there for our plight, 
> and
> it MAY be possible to get the FL, and other clubs at board level, 
> believing
>
> that the punishment is far too harsh - which, quite frankly, it  is.
>
> LUFC has effectively been docked 25 points for failing to comply with FL
> procedures, for reasons outside the club's control - ie the challenge to 
> the
> CVA
> by HMRC. Thischallenge was a direct result of FL/FA policy re football 
> debts
>
> -  and it appears that HMRC will from now on challenge EVERY CVA on the 
> same
>
> grounds.
>
> No football matches were affected by anything that happened, and clearly 
> no
>
> playing advantage was gained last season.
>
> At the same time, West Ham fielded an ineligible player, gaining an unfair
> advantage which resulted in Sheff Utd being relegated. For this offence -
> and
> WHU admit guilt - they were docked no points at all.
>
> Over in Italy, clubs such as AC Milan received far smaller points
> deductions
> for blatant match-fixing and bribery.
>
> I would love to see the Trust, in its official capacity, pick up this 
> issue
>
> and draft a well-written, heartfelt, polite - but firm - letter to the 
> FL -
>
> and to all other League club chairmen, and their associated supporters'
> groups.
>
> The letter would state basically that the 15-point deduction is grossly
> disproportionate to the offences committed, especially when set against
> other
> points deductions given to other clubs in other leagues, where the 
> offences
> were
> far worse.
>
> The letter would ask the FL what it sought to achieve by imposing such a
> stringent penalty on a club that clearly has suffered greatly in recent
> seasons
> due to the incompetence of previous boards. How does kicking Leeds while
> it's
> down help the club to recover and rebuild? And the real victims are the
> fans,
> who simply want to see an end to the club's woes and for the club to be
> given a  fair chance for the long rebuilding process to begin.
>
> The letter would point out there was a groundswell of grass-roots sympathy
> for Leeds and that the League should take note of this, and indeed it 
> would
> not
> be embarrassed by backing down. Indeed, it might gain respect.
>
> By way of a compromise, might a fair solution, that saves face for
> Mawhinney
> and co, be to offset the new 15-point deduction against the 10-point
> deduction from last season, leaving us a manageable minus 5?
>
> This would give us a decent chance of survival and allow us an outside
> chance of the playoffs if all goes well? Surely other clubs want to see a
> contest
> - with a -15pt start our season could be over by Xmas - that could have
> consequences for the rest of the league if we have nothing to play for.
>
> So, Rick. Am I warm? Are you planning something like this? If you are,
> count
> me in.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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