Mark,

Thanks for that. I was alluding to the fact that I didn't fully understand 
what the rules changes were rather than the subtle difference between 
getting your head kicked-in in a ruck/maul.

So for that I have going to have to get technical on your ass;

The experiments in Oz include allowing mauls to be collapsed and hands in 
the ruck provided the handler is on his feet, the aim being of speeding up 
the free-for-all in the breakdown, both are currently penalty offences.

More instances of free kicks are to be used with Penalties limited to Foul 
Play (describes the RU WCF), foul play or persistent infringement.

Or for Rugby League types (like me), the experiments in Oz include, blah, 
blah, blah, crap game, blah, blah, yada yada yada, blah not a real game, 
blah persistent infringement.

Cheers

Chris

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>
>> rugby onion to do with penalties, rucks and mauls (I don't understand 
>> them
>> myself so I am not going to explain them),
>
> A ruck is a pile-up but where the ball has touched the ground.  A maul is
> a pile-up where the ball hasn't (yet) touched the ground.. like what they
> do sometimes after a line-out where they all attempt to trundle forwards.
> I spose they could ban those kinds of mauls and therefore encourage the
> ball to be passed instead, not sure what they can do wrt rucks.
>
> The most obvious thing they will do is change a drop goal from being 3
> points to 1 or 2.  However I actually think that is a very difficult skill
> and should be worth 3 points.  Maybe penalties should be reduced to 2
> which might encourage teams to go for tries instead of taking every
> penalty kick within kicking distance.  They could also go for uncontested
> scrums like in league which would also be one less mass pile-up every 3
> mins at least.
>
>
> 

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